London exodus??

[Newdonewhugh]

Has anyone else noticed that their Town has a lot of people moving from London?
Are local Town and village FB pages literally have 2/3/4 people a day joining and posting with the likes of “I’m moving to ..... from London next week, can anyone help me with X,Y,Z”
My Sister and others said they’ve noticed it too.
We live in South Coast.
I just wonder what this New World will look like. What will happen to London?

@Dongdingdong

I think Rishi Sunak will be looking at taxing second homes in the near future as lots of wealthy Londoners have spent money on this.

Let’s hope so.

It's debatable that lots of wealthy Londoners are buying second homes in other parts of the UK.

It's mainly the same people who are buying second homes in London. Rich people from all over the UK who moved to London and foreign investors.

@Dongdingdong

This thread makes me even more convinced that London should split off from the rest of the UK. We’ll stay in the EU and the rest of you can Brexit!

I'm not arguing for or against Brexit - but I do think it's vital that people realise that London is more diverse than just Remainers. One million Londoners voted to leave. Others didn't vote - which is as valid a view (not minding either way) as any other.

That’s a million shame-faced people come January.

SheepandCow, l named just 3 couples that l know of that have bought second homes this year.
It’s actually more. Another friend bought a doer upper in coastal Kent in an up and coming coastal town. She and her partner have spent their lockdown downtime stripping wallpaper, filling skips and renovating their new coastal pad.
These people are still working with jobs in central London, albeit from home.

@SurroundedByIdiotsEverywhere

Londoners have been moving out for a good 25 years, most have moved because it is no longer the place it once was.

I was born and bred in the East End and left when I was 30 as it was no place to have a family (unless you are rich for private schools etc).

Only a couple of my friends out of about 50 still live there and for one of them does not drive so needs existing bus/tube links for work purposes.

Those Londoners don't exist in the minds of many people on these sorts of threads. Apparently Londoners are all super rich with second homes across the country.

Noone cares either. A hint of it happening in other parts of the UK (pushed out Londoners moving in) and hands held up in horror. Double standards.

Not everybody has moved out. I have several friends raising their families in London social housing.

@RubyViolet

SheepandCow, l named just 3 couples that l know of that have bought second homes this year. It’s actually more. Another friend bought a doer upper in coastal Kent in an up and coming coastal town. She and her partner have spent their lockdown downtime stripping wallpaper, filling skips and renovating their new coastal pad. These people are still working with jobs in central London, albeit from home.

Are they originally from London?

@RubyViolet

SheepandCow, l named just 3 couples that l know of that have bought second homes this year. It’s actually more. Another friend bought a doer upper in coastal Kent in an up and coming coastal town. She and her partner have spent their lockdown downtime stripping wallpaper, filling skips and renovating their new coastal pad. These people are still working with jobs in central London, albeit from home.

And lots of other people are buying second homes IN London.

Londoners have been priced out of London for many years. They have to go somewhere. It's not their fault.

I am not saying people with kids can't work in london and commute from the home counties, i am saying that the pre pandemic reality of rail delays and fixed hours were a deterrent. But if you can work from home reliably and go in for meetings, its no longer a consideration

I know enough single parents families who commute in as well as 2 parent families who both work in London without family help.

Some nurseries are open till 7.30pm, or were when dc were little and if you need to get to a particular London railway station then you choose a place on or near the train line.

Eg Leighton Buzzard to Euston is 49 minutes
High Wycombe to Marylebone 46 minutes
Even Bedford to Farringdon is just over 1 hour

If you live that far out then you don’t actually get the tube apart from once you are in Central London.

Saying that you can’t work in London if you don’t have a nanny or family back up would mean that there are no single parents working in London and if a couple had a child then one of them would have to give up work.

I know plenty of people who commute and have children from places further afield than Bedford or High Wycombe

Interesting SheepandCow.
The Kent coast pair are Mancunians.
Somerset are West Londoners.
Cornwall couple one French, one Home Counties.
East Sussex both from the North East.
Two of the couples still have children in school in London, two couples don’t have kids.
I think l know more who have bought second homes and potential future holiday lets this year. I am curious now.

Yes that's what I mean @RubyViolet
I'm not personally saying these people are unwelcome in London. It's more that it's a bit rich for people to moan about 'Londoners' moving in to their areas, when many of those Londoners are in actual fact originally from all those other places. Meanwhile other Londoners are priced out and have to move to other parts of the UK. It's the modern mobile world we live in - for good and bad. It is what it is, but it's not the fault of ordinary Londoners.

@TatianaBis did I say all parts of London?
What part of the SW are you from?

Those Londoners don't exist in the minds of many people on these sorts of threads. Apparently Londoners are all super rich with second homes across the country.

This does seem to be the perception.

@Gbtch

Wishful thinking I think most of us would like to think the hot property market that is London is losing its power base and spreading its work and prosperity to the provinces. But I don’t believe it is. There will always be high demand for living in London. That’s where jobs, wealth, infrastructure, entertainment, health, travel options are all better than elsewhere. That’s why all politicians want parliament to remain there and whilst they have vested self interest in living in London, that’s where it will remain.

I thought the government were thinking of moving some, if not all, of their departments to other parts of the UK?

Most of the MPs don't live in London. They have second homes in London. You will have seen that during the first Covid wave. They all left London to go to their main constituency homes.

The rich make a lot of money out of London - often at great cost to ordinary Londoners.

I hope not we don't need Londoners pricing locals out of housing and changing the makeup of our local area. Some smug northern Londoner types will get the shock of their lives when they move to rural Norfolk discover great chunks of the UK are 95% white and are conservatives Brexit supporting strongholds.

Wherehavetheteletubbiesgone. That sounds absolutely ghastly 🤣🤣🤣

@rosey99

I live in Cornwall and its full of Londoners moving in

How do you know they're Londoners? London is full of people from Cornwall (and the rest of the UK, and beyond) who've been moving in for years.

This thread has become very unpleasant in a town v country type way. Similar to the Covid ones when people in rural communities didn’t want visitors coming.

@Wherehavetheteletubbiesgone

I hope not we don't need Londoners pricing locals out of housing and changing the makeup of our local area. Some smug northern Londoner types will get the shock of their lives when they move to rural Norfolk discover great chunks of the UK are 95% white and are conservatives Brexit supporting strongholds.

Why would they be shocked? Half of them will originally be from places like Norfolk.

Londoners who have been priced out of London have every right to go somewhere else. It's not their fault people from Norfolk and the rest of the UK priced them out of London and 'changed the makeup of the area'.

Do always make assumptions about people? There really is nothing so unpalatable as a privileged lefty

The irony in this post is just fantastic!

@Thepilotlightsgoneout

This thread has become very unpleasant in a town v country type way. Similar to the Covid ones when people in rural communities didn’t want visitors coming.

I feel so sorry for non white Londoners who are priced out, who need to move elsewhere in the UK, and who might (like many people) want a quieter pace of life away from a big city to raise their children. It's clear some people are deeply insular and hate all 'incomers' but I suspect there's more than a whiff of racism mixed in.

I'm not arguing for or against Brexit - but I do think it's vital that people realise that London is more diverse than just Remainers. One million Londoners voted to leave. Others didn't vote - which is as valid a view (not minding either way) as any other.

I thought it was 1.5m, the split was definitely not as big as expected in some boroughs.

Some smug northern Londoner types will get the shock of their lives when they move to rural Norfolk discover great chunks of the UK are 95% white and are conservatives Brexit supporting strongholds.

Maybe some want this & are Tories & Brexit voters though as they do exist in London.

It's well known that approximately 60% of Londoners aren't white British. When people start talking about not wanting Londoners to move in and change the makeup of the area, it sounds suspiciously like racism to me.

Maybe some want this & are Tories & Brexit voters though as they do exist in London.

Absolutely - I give you @winniestone37!

It's clear some people are deeply insular and hate all 'incomers' but I suspect there's more than a whiff of racism mixed in.

True dat & let's not forgot that some who require social housing are often pushed out of London by the LA so it's not even their decision.