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AIBU to ignore friend's advice at the moment - she thinks I should see GP about DS's development?

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ShimmylikeJoanHolloway · 12/11/2020 09:05

Before I start I'll just say, I'm not cross with my friend at all, it comes from a very good place without malice. Her DS is autistic, but it took them a LONG time to get in the system and get a diagnosis because signs weren't picked up on til much later on.

So she's genuinely well intentioned and trying to help.
However she has only seen DS over Zoom calls since the first lockdown started, and despite a few things she's raised I'm not overly worried - however I AM a bit worried that perhaps I am being too laid back and I should heed her advice more hence me posting on here.
He's ten and a half months and I think I should give it time as it's too young to isolate any red flag behaviours, but I accept I could be wrong and not wanting to see these things.

Things she's flagged:

  • He twirls his wrists. He's done this since about seven months like he's conducting a mini orchestra.
  • He doesn't point at the moment. He sometimes follows my point if he's not distracted but not all the times.
  • He wasn't waving - but I think he's just started, he was opening and closing his hand at a worker in Tesco yesterday when she was waving at him. He also 'high fives' and if you say 'kisses' and kiss his palm, then say 'again' he will hold his palm up for more.
  • He doesn't mimic as such. However he will smile back at you if you smile at him, and we do a little goldfish mouth thing at him which he will do back. But those are the only other things he'll copy at the moment.
  • He doesn't spoon feed himself - he used to but won't now, he will guide the spoon in
  • He doesn't hand toys to me or follow an instruction to get a particular toy - we haven't really practised this, I'm going to start
  • He doesn't really have stranger danger, he's a very smiley and sociable little boy and is happy to go to other people. BUT if I'm in the room he will grumble and try to get to me, even if it's DH holding him.
  • He doesn't really gesture, aside from lifting his arms and bouncing to be picked up.
  • He loves toys that have flaps or doors you can open and close
  • He's not saying any words yet but does a lot of mama, baba and sounds and is very vocal with these. *He's fascinated by a particular light in our house and grins at it whenever it's turned on or off - only that light though (I think this is pretty normal for babies, he's done it since he was tiny and isn't bothered by other lights).

I'm not worried as:
He's easily distracted
He responds to his name
He will find a toy if I hide it under a muslin (providing he hasn't got lots of other toys within reach and isn't distracted
He places things inside a pot and takes them out
He's very smiley and sociable
Although he loves the light he doesn't sit staring at it
He's constantly looking for me and will be playing, then crawl over and look at me, will check I'm watching when he's playing, looks to us when he's done something he's pleased with
He's developing in other areas really well so I think he's focused on physical rather than communication at the moment - he's pulling up, cruising, trying to stand, crawling, sitting (clumisly) from standing and sitting from crawling.
His pincer grip is good and he feeds himself with his hand, is a good eater and not fussed by different textures

Nothing he's doing seems to be a huge red flag to me, especially when I think about the things he's grown out of previously, or how quickly he's progressed, but I don't know if I'm being willfully blinkard?

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LittleAtlas · 12/11/2020 09:42

He sounds like he's doing fine and is a lovely little baby! My son did the wrist twirling from a very young age and it just stopped suddenly, like a phase he grew out of. And hes not long turned one and he's only just started handing things to us. We had a 12 month check up over the phone so hopefully you can get one sorted to help put your mind at rest :Smile

ShimmylikeJoanHolloway · 12/11/2020 09:43

@hvnamechange2000 ah sorry didn't mean to jump on you, I'm a bit sensitive about that subject due to my terrible experiences.
I just looked on the website and it looks like they aren't currently doing face to face checks but doing it in the form of a questionnaire over the phone

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OoohTheStatsDontLie · 12/11/2020 09:43

The thing is even if you were concerned, I think he is too young for any analysis or intervention anyway.
I'd leave it until the 12 month check and mention your friends concerns then but to me he sounds perfectly normal

Nottherealslimshady · 12/11/2020 09:45

He seems fine. She's picking up on the twirling wrists as stimming. In actual fact all people stim, autisitics just do it more. She's just seeing things in your son that her son did, but her son isn't just autistic, he's also a person, so he does person things too.

ShimmylikeJoanHolloway · 12/11/2020 09:47

Thank you yes I was thinking way too young because he's had some weird little quirks earlier on he's already grown out of so I was thinking 12-18 months was probably a better time
To be honest I wouldn't have noticed any of these things as being particularly worrisome on my own!

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TheYearOfSmallThings · 12/11/2020 09:48

Your DS sounds completely normal. I think your friend is looking at him and seeing things her DS used to do, and ascribing them to her DS's autism rather than recognising them as things all babies do at this age. There are many behaviours which are developmentally normal at 12 months, and only become atypical if they persist beyond 2 or 3 years.

dottiedodah · 12/11/2020 09:50

Hes only 10 months old?! I thought he was about 3! OF course this is perfectly normal!

Someonesayroadtrip · 12/11/2020 09:52

Sounds normal for that age. Think you friend is just projecting.

I have two with ASD, I do notice traits in other children sometimes but it's not my place to say anything unless they ask me directly and even then traits are not ASD. Hence why it's a spectrum.

However in your case there is nothing alarming given your child's age.

ShimmylikeJoanHolloway · 12/11/2020 09:53

I know she really blames herself for not spotting things sooner, so I think she's just very very aware of things like this now and would hate for me to go through the same, if that were the case.
But yes, he's teeny tiny still!

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MrsMiaWallis · 12/11/2020 09:56

He sounds gorgeous OP

dottiedodah · 12/11/2020 10:01

I think she is projecting some of her worries to you as well .Watch and wait and see what HV says .

SleepingStandingUp · 12/11/2020 10:02

I understand she's over compensating and she's doing it with love, but making you paranoid your 10 month old likes flappy doors is a bit OTT. I'd try to gently dissuade any conversation around it tbh

JimandPam · 12/11/2020 10:06

OP, my DS is the exact same age as you and your list is very similar to mine!

He's also my first and has had limited interaction but when he has seen his cousins at a distance, he reacts and mimics- but doesn't do it with us so much.

He is a crawler but more drags himself than on his knees and has only just started cruising.

I have no concerns at this stage and he loves staring and playing peekaboo. He's also obsessed with several sparkly lights in the house for no reason!

I think he sounds like a lovely little boy. I've received the questionnaire for our 11-12 month HV check and there's a few things he's not doing which no doubt they'll tell me to practice. But I'm still not too concerned.

I agree with PP I think your friend is projecting a bit

ShimmylikeJoanHolloway · 12/11/2020 10:10

Thank you @jimandpam your DS sounds lovely too. Mine isn't actually playing peekaboo with us yet but he loves it when we do it and actively looks for us if you see what I mean.

I've mainly been tracking his progress against himself - so as long as I'm seeing progress I'm trying not to get too hung up on milestones and things.

I think it's a good point about dissuading conversation around the topic, as I can see myself getting more and more worried if she keeps bringing it up, however well intentioned.

This thread has been enormously helpful.

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LoveMyKidsAndCats · 12/11/2020 10:10

He sounds completely normal. But it's so hard to know at such a young age. My sons autistic I can't really remember what he was like as a baby, hes a teen now, but he never smiled and was so quiet he would just sit and stare at the world. Such an easy baby he was Smile

HavelockVetinari · 12/11/2020 10:12

He sounds absolutely normal for a 10.5 month old, if that list were a sign of autism I'd have needed to send my DS to the GP at that age (not autistic, he's a perfectly neurotypical and sociable 3.4 year old)!

I think she's projecting because of her own situation (and maybe because it'd be easier to have a friend with a child with autism the same as her).

Thisisnotataste · 12/11/2020 10:12

Sounds perfectly typical 10.5month old.
You won't get a notification for the 12month check until very nearly 12 months. Our HV is relatively good and we only just had ours at 13months.

You sound like a lovely friend by the way

laudemio · 12/11/2020 10:12

He is 10.5 months a paediatrician wouldn't even make a diagnosis at this age because babies do all sorts of weird things.
Your friend wants to feel someone is in the same boat as her, maybe, maybe not. Just brush it off and get advice if you have concerns at 3+

drumst1ck · 12/11/2020 10:19

Sounds completely normal! Mine was pretty much doing exactly that at the same age, she then hit 12 months and we got pointing, first proper word and eating with a spoon all in about the space of a week! He's so little still, don't worry he sounds very normal!

ShimmylikeJoanHolloway · 12/11/2020 10:21

Thank you :) all very reassuring.
I have been really enjoying him, he's such a happy smiley boy and I've managed thus far to not get stressed about milestones and things, and really don't want to start now!

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Camomila · 12/11/2020 10:22

We get a 9-10m check, DS2 (9.5m) can't do all of the things on the communication bit of the questionnaire but I've put it down to lockdown and concentrating on moving rather than anything else.

DS1 did a few worrying things as a toddler (tip toe walking and headbanging) but grew out of both and shows no signs of autism/other issues.

Member984815 · 12/11/2020 10:25

Sounds perfectly normal to me

1234512345Meh · 12/11/2020 10:26

I have an 11 month old (and a 2 year old) and what you describe seems pretty normal to be honest.

Merryhobnobs · 12/11/2020 10:29

He sounds perfectly normal. My 15 month old can say about 6 words/specific noises but that's only recently. I know it's fine because my daughters vocabulary didn't really take off until she was 2. My daughter also twirls her hands. She always has done and we love it. She is 4.5 and there has never been a single issue over her development. Your baby is still a baby.

5zeds · 12/11/2020 10:36

Is her child an only child? Nothing you list is particularly unusual in any child. Is it possible she has imagined lots of her babies behaviour is autism related rather than her baby has autism as well as being a baby and doing baby stuff?