Finally got promoted but extremely disappointed about new salary

[Fressia123]

My amazing payrise was £1k!! And I now report to 3 different people, have to use my language skills and have to bring new accounts. (I went from entry level to account manager).

I almost want to cry.

Do they have an appraisal system, could you get them to set out what you would need to deliver, the timescale and what your pay rise would be then?

@Fressia123

It was meant to mean couldn't take the job . I still look for similar roles at Amazon but haven't seen one in the area ever since.

Amazon are a good employer according to my friend. Target other similar like Google, Twitter, Facebook etc - basically similar companies and if you require WFH then they're usually good about this compared to other companies.

@RedRedRobinBobbin

Do they have an appraisal system, could you get them to set out what you would need to deliver, the timescale and what your pay rise would be then?

Appraisal systems I've found in the past can actually be counterproductive - you have to ensure they will follow through on their promises.

One job - I had started newly qualified - on a lower salary to show keenness - and promise of increase after a year or so - after that year it became crystal clear there would be no pay-rise partly because my boss was a miser and then he had excuses like the person in an equivalent job wouldn't like it - despite the fact she was a few years older but I did far more than she did... when I left he offered me a good pay rise to stay. Did I stay?! Did I heck...

OP never apply without knowing salary

What are the legals? Can you withdraw?

One issue is that you might have to tell your next job your current salary and then you risk being underpaid there too.

I didn't apply, this role was promised to me as a "natural progression". The role was created for me 100%

And no ultimately I wouldn't withdraw as my current role is boring beyond belief but I definitely have no loyalty left to my employer.

So is it the case you’ve effectively been promoted in role, but to a role that didn’t exist before that they’ve created for you? That sounds a bit strange. Who was doing the work before?

Nobody was doing it. They just saw the market need and knew I could do it.

That's ridiculous. I work in a small contact centre, no work outside of hours. 18k basic but anything between £500 - £1000 bonus a month and it's uncapped
Realistically I take home 24k

I was earning more than that as a sales manager basic salary was £25K, car, plus commission on top in early 1990s. Admittedly not SW but SE.

I'd be negotiating for targeted commission on top perhaps? Do some tables to show the profit to the company. Commission will look like such a small ££.

And did they badge it as a promotion or just as a new role?

@Fressia123

My amazing payrise was £1k!! And I now report to 3 different people, have to use my language skills and have to bring new accounts. (I went from entry level to account manager).

I almost want to cry.

Options here:

1. Don't take the role if the extra hassle isn't worth the £1k (pre tax, NIC, student loan) to you

2. Take the role so you have the title on your CV, do it for a bit, get experience in the new areas it entails, then leave and find somewhere that pays better for a similar role

I'm taking #2 @PizzaForOne

I think in they're eyes it's mix of both (new role/promotion).

I will do fit and give it my all, hopefully they'll change their minds when the time comes. I'll also keep my eyes open to other opportunities elsewhere.

@TooManyDogsandChildren

Do it for a year then use it as a stepping stone to a better job elsewhere

This is excellent advice. Do not leave right now. They might even be checking you with this and seeing as you have to bring in new accounts, this could be kind of test for seeing your commitment. A lot of the times, account managers can take the client with them. Work hard in this role and build a client base and then negotiate for the pay rise that you think you should have got.

Our competitors are mostly US based but yes I get what you mean :)

@Fressia123

I'm taking #2 *@PizzaForOne*

I think in they're eyes it's mix of both (new role/promotion).

I will do fit and give it my all, hopefully they'll change their minds when the time comes. I'll also keep my eyes open to other opportunities elsewhere.

Good for you, good luck with it! :)

Hard lesson here - never ever assume that your new supervisor will do the right thing.

I was made upper management in a previous org and when the new HR came in and said not only was on about 15% less than everyone else in the same role, but I had less annual leave too. She didn't address pay but did address leave.

I left within the year to a much better position. And the turnover there for management was huge - literally out of 6 positions 5/6 left in a year and two years later another 4/6 left. Companies reap what they sew!

OP, why did you not discuss salary when the promotion was suggested?
It is so important that women learn not to be shy about their own worth.

I think while you are still in the probation period, you should speak to HR and explain that the salary increase in no way reflects the job spec and additional responsibilities and that you'd like a realistic pay review within the next few months.

Meanwhile, use your new role to move within your industry and always discuss pay - even if they are coy about it. Be direct. Men are.

Well because this convert started about 1 year ago! I actually thought I would have a more formal meeting before being appointed (where I'd discuss salary) but that never happened.

*conversation

Time to talk to you manager. No need to be shy just be clear that you are disappointed at the new salary for this role given the significant increase in responsibilities. You are never stronger than now to start that negotiation.

It has taken me far too long to realise that being coy gets you nowhere. I've had the most 'success' in getting better terms when I've been straightforward that the initial offer is not up to my expectations regardless of whether this is an internal or external role.

Gosh, that's a pretty poor salary. I know housing is cheaper, but that much cheaper?

Nope! Living expenses are not that lower. Our 3 bed end of terrace is £800 mortgage payment. (rent would be closer to £1200).

Hi Op, what happened with the Amazon job? Did you post about this previously as it sounds familiar

It needed relocation so couldn't take it. (I applied for a local role, then took that off the table).