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...to hate the message on this wall art?

86 replies

ShakinScarecrow · 08/11/2020 23:16

I saw this in The Range, and I've seen similar memes on social media.

It annoys me that it suggests women are unable to be forthright and use passive aggressive comments instead.

I don't think this is the case for most women who are perfectly capable of being open and honest.

Or is it just a 'joke'?

...to hate the message on this wall art?
OP posts:
Mystraightenersarebroken · 09/11/2020 12:34

What do you think are the deep and complex reasons why some (maybe many) women find it hard to be clear and direct in a calm assertive manner? There is a long history of small girls being called ‘bossy’, women being described as all sorts of things for presuming to assert themselves in the workplace or for ‘wearing the trousers’ if they take equal responsibility for decision making in the household and family.

In conversation and discussion it has been consistently demonstrated in studies that women get interrupted and shouted down more than men, and their ideas and contributions ignored until re-presented by men who then claim credit.

Given all this do you not think it sexist and a continuation of women struggling to find a clear voice to be belittled in cheap tat as a home decoration?

This nails it

LindaEllen · 09/11/2020 12:42

I actually chuckled to myself, because at least a couple of those are things I say to DP on occasion. I'll always say I'm fine when I'm not (when what I really mean is please stop asking me or I'll cry).

You don't have to take everything personally or offensively.

peachescariad · 09/11/2020 13:04

Cheap, tacky, sexist ....who actually buys this shit?

Worse still....the ones who'd be happy to receive it off a partner...

peachescariad · 09/11/2020 13:05

@Mystraightenersarebroken

What do you think are the deep and complex reasons why some (maybe many) women find it hard to be clear and direct in a calm assertive manner? There is a long history of small girls being called ‘bossy’, women being described as all sorts of things for presuming to assert themselves in the workplace or for ‘wearing the trousers’ if they take equal responsibility for decision making in the household and family.

In conversation and discussion it has been consistently demonstrated in studies that women get interrupted and shouted down more than men, and their ideas and contributions ignored until re-presented by men who then claim credit.

Given all this do you not think it sexist and a continuation of women struggling to find a clear voice to be belittled in cheap tat as a home decoration?

This nails it

OMG love this
NotFrozen · 09/11/2020 13:07

It’s tacky but not worth being offended about. However if I saw this in someone’s house it would definitely influence my opinion of that person!

butterpuffed · 09/11/2020 13:28

@ravenmum If it said "Women are SO passive aggressive! smile" and I told you it was lighthearted and not meant to hurt anyone's feelings, would that overstep the line for you, or would it still be OK?

It would be ok and it'd make me smile because some of us are ! That's what I meant about people taking offence at everything and also taking everything so seriously.

People's opinions differ, if they didn't there would be no point in contributing to the threads on here.

ravenmum · 09/11/2020 13:37

[quote butterpuffed]@ravenmum If it said "Women are SO passive aggressive! smile" and I told you it was lighthearted and not meant to hurt anyone's feelings, would that overstep the line for you, or would it still be OK?

It would be ok and it'd make me smile because some of us are ! That's what I meant about people taking offence at everything and also taking everything so seriously.

People's opinions differ, if they didn't there would be no point in contributing to the threads on here.[/quote]
I love people who take things seriously, so you're right there :)

butterpuffed · 09/11/2020 13:43

We agree to differ Smile

OnlyToWin · 09/11/2020 13:45

There is a sign in a shop near me which says: “We’ve called your husband and he says buy what you like.”
It gives me the rage every time I walk past it. I don’t go in. I have pointed it out to my daughters and explained how I feel about it. I do think things like this drip into the subconscious of both women and men and although considered “harmless” should always be questioned and challenged or they’re being condoned.

CorianderBlues · 09/11/2020 14:01

@OnlyToWin

There is a sign in a shop near me which says: “We’ve called your husband and he says buy what you like.” It gives me the rage every time I walk past it. I don’t go in. I have pointed it out to my daughters and explained how I feel about it. I do think things like this drip into the subconscious of both women and men and although considered “harmless” should always be questioned and challenged or they’re being condoned.
What were your daughters' reactions?
OnlyToWin · 09/11/2020 14:04

@CorianderBlues
They thought it was ridiculous and pointed out that I had a job and my only money, so didn’t need to ask anyone how to spend it!

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