...to hate the message on this wall art?

[ShakinScarecrow]

I saw this in The Range, and I've seen similar memes on social media.

It annoys me that it suggests women are unable to be forthright and use passive aggressive comments instead.

I don't think this is the case for most women who are perfectly capable of being open and honest.

Or is it just a 'joke'?

There is plenty the same about men, and also good ones about women and good ones about men. Yes the message is ridiculous but it’s the same on the men ones too.

It's as old as the hills and prior to everyone being so PC was around everywhere and frankly, popular because of the truth of it.

But apparently recognising differences is A Bad Thing these days as is having the ability to laugh at them.

YABU calling it art.

Mass produced shit like this is clutter.

It's sexist shite and not in the least bit funny.

It's also utterly naff. Who tf buys this shit?

It’s sexist stereotyping and in poor taste.

Having said that, it’s true that some women are afraid to have honest conversations but prefer to hint and then complain bitterly when the other person doesn’t react to the hints.

My mum was very PA with my dad which I found ridiculous and I’ve since dumped a couple of friends who happily moan about other people not responding to their clues. If they won’t take responsibility for saying what they mean, they can sod off.

It’s grim. Men are just as likely to be monosyllabic and passive-aggressive. There’s no need to make it gender-specific or a joke.

It's nothing new. Tacky shit.

Wall art? It's just a crappy sign

It’s full of hate for women. I’d never design/approve/sell or buy such a thing. I just can’t imagine anyone I like going near it.

I class the Range as a poor man's version of Dunelm

Really?! Dunelm is cheap as chips. Literally the same as the range give or take a few items!

@butterpuffed

It's meant to be lighthearted , I think some people love to take offence even though they know none is meant.

If it said "Women are SO passive aggressive! :)" and I told you it was lighthearted and not meant to hurt anyone's feelings, would that overstep the line for you, or would it still be OK?

I don't get who would buy it!! Who is it aimed at?

It’s not sexist, it’s a comical observation of some behavior differences between men and women across the West. The “Fine” one is just an observation of the different arguing style more commonly employed by women than men. You don’t solve sexism by pretending differences between the sexist don’t exist.

@ravenmum
It doesn’t say women are passive aggressive - it says women can be passive aggressive.

If you kill generalized stereotypes then a whole comedy chunk of comedy is dead. Which doesn’t mean any and all stereotypes are fair game - anyone going after a social minority group with a joke needs to tread extremely carefully. But that’s supposed to be the art of being a fine comedian - knowing where the line is.

Stuff like this matters - it's everywhere everyday and makes up a very misogynistic bigger picture

Yep, casual sexism. And I for one can't stand passive aggression; I prefer (and employ) direct methods of communication if something pisses me off. You know, like a grown adult.

Until fairly recently we'd moved to a place where people uttering this sort of passe shit were gently laughed at as the dinosaurs they are. But it's become increasingly clear over the last 5 years or so that misogyny is being relegitimized, along with homophobia, particularly toward lesbians. Anyone in any doubt of this should consider why 'woman' is suddenly becoming a dirty word, why the public use of it should be stirring up such controversy and threats of violence, and why it's suddenly being erased from literature relating to the health, safety and dignity of women.

'Wall art' like this buys straight into that narrative. As far as I'm concerned, The Range know where they can shove it.

Cam77 - it implies that women are more passive aggressive than men. I'm interested in where people's boundaries lie, if not where mine do. If, for example, a man started making cheesy jokes about how women say these things, I would feel pretty uncomfortable, as if he was crossing a boundary, and watch out for what other kinds of things he said.

Can other people actually read what it says under the capitalised bits or are you all just assuming that it is funny? I can't read it at all.

YABU for concerning yourself with fugly wall ‘art’! Who even buys any of this crap? No one I know has signs like this, slogans, or any live laugh love shit in their house.

@Cam77

It’s not sexist, it’s a comical observation of some behavior differences between men and women across the West. The “Fine” one is just an observation of the different arguing style more commonly employed by women than men. You don’t solve sexism by pretending differences between the sexist don’t exist.

What do you think are the deep and complex reasons why some (maybe many) women find it hard to be clear and direct in a calm assertive manner? There is a long history of small girls being called ‘bossy’, women being described as all sorts of things for presuming to assert themselves in the workplace or for ‘wearing the trousers’ if they take equal responsibility for decision making in the household and family.

In conversation and discussion it has been consistently demonstrated in studies that women get interrupted and shouted down more than men, and their ideas and contributions ignored until re-presented by men who then claim credit.

Given all this do you not think it sexist and a continuation of women struggling to find a clear voice to be belittled in cheap tat as a home decoration?

My in-laws used to buy them for me as Christmas presents.

@Lookfortheheros

I don't get who would buy it!! Who is it aimed at?

Idiots with a low threshold for humour, no wit, and no aesthetic taste.

My in-laws used to buy them for me as Christmas presents.

Proves my point about passive aggressive nitwits. My parents in law never went that far but SiL did it for years. Pathetic.

@user1473878824

Is this really all you have to worry about? It’s a lighthearted joke sign.

The classic bully response - "Why are you hurt - it's only a joke" - except they are the only ones laughing.

@Audreyseyebrows

It will be hung up right next to the live, love, laugh sign. Stay away from people who buy these.

I have the live, love, laugh wall stencil but there is no way I'd have the shite mentioned in the OP. It's in the downstairs toilet and has become a bit of a joke.

I have the live, love, laugh wall stencil but there is no way I'd have the shite mentioned in the OP. It's in the downstairs toilet and has become a bit of a joke.

Sit, shit, think, stink?