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Wearing a poppy at job interview

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YouThank · 08/11/2020 15:39

AIBU to wear a poppy on my shirt when I go to a job interview? I have two interviews lined up this week, one on Tuesday and one on Friday.

My sis says I shouldn't wear a poppy for an interview and certainly not after the remembrance day e.g. on the Friday.

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OchonAgusOchonO · 10/11/2020 20:47

@MissMarks

It isn’t a proper apology- they are only apologetic for killing ‘non combatants’. And with regards to actively celebrating terrorism- have a look at the local Facebook pages of Sinn Fein and republican socialist clubs were current politicians regularly appear to reminisce about the good old days of things such as the Maze escape.
Goal posts moved again. No apologies from the DUP at all for starting up Ulster Resistance and for telling unionists to resist using whatever ever means necessary.....

And no, I've no interest in looking at facebook. Facebook is the biggest waste of time going. If you want to provide a proper link or screenshot, fire ahead.

MissMarks · 10/11/2020 20:51

I am sorry- are you thinking not apologising for planting bombs under the cars of prison officers is acceptable??? Give your head a shake.
I also don’t know about this things in relation to celebrating republicanism from what I have seen on Facebook- I know because I have actually been at them. Believe me- I know a lot more about republicanism today than you would think.

OchonAgusOchonO · 10/11/2020 21:04

@MissMarks

I am sorry- are you thinking not apologising for planting bombs under the cars of prison officers is acceptable??? Give your head a shake. I also don’t know about this things in relation to celebrating republicanism from what I have seen on Facebook- I know because I have actually been at them. Believe me- I know a lot more about republicanism today than you would think.
I am sorry- are you thinking not apologising for planting bombs under the cars of prison officers is acceptable??? Give your head a shake.

Please point out where I said that? You said they never apologised. I pointed out they did.

MissMarks · 10/11/2020 21:08

They apologised for killing innocent non combatants caught up in their operations.
As they think they are an actual army at war young police officers, prison officers just doing their jobs were seen as fair game. I completely disagree! Do you??

waterfordwhispersnews.com/2020/02/11/mcdonald-asks-party-to-refrain-from-shouting-up-the-ra-for-at-least-a-week/
This is funny because it is true.

OchonAgusOchonO · 10/11/2020 21:16

@MissMarks

They apologised for killing innocent non combatants caught up in their operations. As they think they are an actual army at war young police officers, prison officers just doing their jobs were seen as fair game. I completely disagree! Do you??

waterfordwhispersnews.com/2020/02/11/mcdonald-asks-party-to-refrain-from-shouting-up-the-ra-for-at-least-a-week/
This is funny because it is true.

What do you completely disagree with? That they think they are an army? That they were at war? That prison officers were fair game?

I do not agree with murder, regardless of whether it is committed by terrorists or agents of the government and regardless of whether the victim is a civilian or a so-called "legitimate target". I find them all equally abhorrent.

Speaking of apologies, while the UK have apologised for bloody sunday, there have been no apologies for most of the murders committed by the armed forces or in collusion with them. What's your opinion on that? Or given you said the only reason the army were there killing people was because of the IRA campaign should we see the poor soldiers as the victims?

MissMarks · 10/11/2020 21:25

I do not believe they were an army, that they were at war or that prison officers or police men were legitimate targets.
I believe that what started as a justified Civil rights campaign was turned into years and years of terrorism by very bad people who thought violence could be used to unite Ireland. Not only did they kill many people but they have destroyed their own and others communities for generations to come.
I believe the British Army and RUC used tactics to deal with the IRA and other paramilitaries that were unacceptable and which undoubtedly kept the whole thing going. They too have a lot to answer for.
I know from personal experience that republicanism is still alive and well and I do not for one second think that the most militant within it have any interest in finding a compromise to the Northern Ireland problem. They still are absolutely intent on securing a United ireland- regardless of the fact that the majority are opposed to this. I also strongly believe that by putting Mary Lou and Michelle at the helm, SF are trying to appear ‘respectable’, however at their core the IRA is still in the driving seat- we demonstrated by Bobby Storeys funeral and John Odowds attempt to over throw Michelle O Neill.

OchonAgusOchonO · 10/11/2020 21:28

You didn't answer my question about an apology from the British government for the murders committed by, or colluded in, by the army, police etc.

MissMarks · 10/11/2020 21:32

Yes the British Government should apologise for the murders caused by collusion with loyalist paramilitaries.
As I said they engaged in tactics that were wrong.

MissMarks · 10/11/2020 21:33

Any murder. They shouldn’t have been killing anyone- they should have been arrested and charged and sentenced.

OchonAgusOchonO · 10/11/2020 21:38

@MissMarks - Yes the British Government should apologise for the murders caused by collusion with loyalist paramilitaries.

But not the murders committed directly by the British army? Interesting. You're very quick to condemn others.

MissMarks · 10/11/2020 21:42

And the British Army.

MissMarks · 10/11/2020 21:43

I have friends who had family members killed by the army. I have friends who had family members killed by the IRA. Both are abhorrent

OchonAgusOchonO · 10/11/2020 21:43

@MissMarks - And the British Army.

Well I'm glad we managed to drag that out of you.

MissMarks · 10/11/2020 21:46

I said a long time ago that I had no issue with soldier F being charged.
🤨

OchonAgusOchonO · 10/11/2020 21:47

@MissMarks - I said a long time ago that I had no issue with soldier F being charged.

Soldier F is only one of many.

MissMarks · 10/11/2020 21:51

If the evidence is there they should be charged. In the same way paramilitaries should be too if there is now the evidence to charge them.

OchonAgusOchonO · 10/11/2020 21:57

@MissMarks - If the evidence is there they should be charged. In the same way paramilitaries should be too if there is now the evidence to charge them.

There's plenty of evidence. The British government has just refused to look at it. Have a look at the netflix documentary about the miami show band referenced above. Plenty of other cases where they know exactly who killed the individual but no real attempt at justice.

MissMarks · 10/11/2020 22:03

Because it is such a contentious issue as many feel that the armies actions were justified due to what was happening at the time. It is incredibly complex. I personally think the whole lot of them should be called to account- people inherently know right from wrong. Many of those in working class areas joined paramilitary organisations- but equally many didn’t because they knew it was wrong- my own father being one of them. Many in the army were trying their best- others were hyped up young men who thought it was all a big game. It is very sad.

RuggerHug · 10/11/2020 22:26

So your Dad was convinced it was a good cause/reason to be involved. You know it wasn't but only blame "the other side". That only took how long?

RuggerHug · 10/11/2020 22:27

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RuggerHug · 10/11/2020 22:28

I've already reported my comment above, I read your post wrong MM. Have you decided to watch what we recommended or read about it?

MissMarks · 10/11/2020 22:29

My dad grew up in a loyalist part of Northern Ireland. Many of his peers joined loyalist paramilitaries at that time. He didn’t as he knew right from wrong. In the same way as many people growing up in west Belfast didn’t join the flipping ra! not sure how that is a strange view point.

RuggerHug · 10/11/2020 22:34

I said I reported that post as I read your comment wrong, I originally read it as your Dad had joined. I corrected it as soon as I realised. Have you decided to watch what we recommended or read about it?

MissMarks · 10/11/2020 22:35

Yes- I will watch the Miami Showband Massacre. I am in no way doubting that it was an atrocity.

RuggerHug · 10/11/2020 22:56

Sound. Give us a shout when you have.