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Christmas gifts from in laws

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SunflowerSeed1234 · 07/11/2020 23:44

Hi all

I'm just looking for some friendly advice and reaching out to see what you would do!

Christmas is really big to my MIL. Mainly present buying. She likes to buy big expensive presents which is of course lovely.

I came from a fairly poor family and we never had lots and lots of presents. Sometimes I find big huge gifts a bit overwhelming. We don't spend as much as her on presents and it makes me feel really awkward. I always think its the thought not the cost of the gift.

Anyway... she always asks every year what to get our child. She doesn't spend a lot of time at all with her grandchild so she really doesn't know them at all. She always suggests things that my child already has or things that are just not suitable. She also goes out and just picks up anything in the shops. I always feel like that money would be better in my childs saving account than a toy they will never play with and we end up donating the next year. I feel like the gifts are a waste as after the initial christmas excitement they are never played with again. I also feel like she asks me not to genuinely ask what my child would like but rather tell me what she is getting regardless if I think it's a good idea or not.

She often buys duplicate toys/items and when we say oh we have that she just says well now they can have 2.

When we have kindly (and i mean kindly) said oh we have that item how about this instead she calls my husband crying down the phone that she wanted to het my child that specific item. Shouts and calls us selfish.

She also purchases a lot of items on wish, ebay & Amazon. I don't like toys bought off these sites as its classed as a market place not a uk based store. This means the items don't need to be approved by EU standards. There is the risk of choking and potentially dangerous chemicals used in making the product. So for example she bought a clock and you place pieces in it. It wasn't aged and my child put some of the bits in their mouth and almost choked. It was really scary. It was clearly not aged appropriately. (My child did this after being gifted the clock) I am not shaming any parents at all who purchase through market places. Just my preference would be a proper uk shop where you know saftey standards are in place. I'd much rather she got less items but we knew they had passed all necessary safety checks.

So some of the time I just dispose of the items purchased.

I know I probably sound ungrateful 🙁 but we are so grateful. It's just such a frustration every year and me and my husband find ourselves arguing and it does ruin the day for all of us. Also I feel upset that she is upset.

For example this year she has already stated she wants to buy my child a bike. We kindly said we already have bought a second hand bike that my child still can't ride and made a different suggestion. She hasn't spoken to us since.

I always feel like gifts should be thoughtful rather than this child is x age so they can have....

She also turns up with sacks and sacks of presents. I find it hard from having so little when I was a child I really learnt to appreciate and look after things. I don't like the message my child is getting by getting lots of "things". I feel like time spent together would be a better for my child rather than not seeing them for months on end and then turning up with a sack of random presents that don't correlate to knowing my child at all.

She also tells my child to open all the boxes instantly. Then on Christmas day when we are trying to leave we are walking around the room picking up small random pieces with no idea what toy they belong to throwing them in bags to get home. It's all a huge mess at home with bits and peices mixed up and we've ended up losing lots of bits at the house and my child is unable to play with it all anyway!

I really don't know what to do anymore
I'm tired of worrying about something in my perspective feels very silly.

My husband says keep telling her no when something isn't suitable. If she gets upset it's her problem. Ovbiously I don't want her to be upset. I feel like just saying buy whatever you want and then just donating things.

What would you do? Should I just take the gift and say thank you regardless if she has asked for my opinion? It's hard as a gift is a gift but why does she ask me and then cry when I suggest something else?

(No attacking comments please. Please read this as it is written. I know a lot of people would be so grateful for additional presents for their children and I know we are very lucky. I just really need some advice on how to best move forward with her in a positive way ❤)

OP posts:
user1471538283 · 08/11/2020 08:19

Would she be interested in buying something needed and useful? Like a new bed or sorting out a room in her house for your child? Or something to play with and then the rest into a savings account for college? Or a clothes shopping trip with lunch? My DGF liked getting me something just from him and I can remember going around the shops just me and him to get something in particular which was so lovely. My DF liked getting DS something significant that DS wanted so I used to hold back an idea just for him which one year was a bike

Coffeecak3 · 08/11/2020 08:21

I really find your mil strange. Perhaps your dh needs to be firm with his dm.
My ds rang me at beginning of November and told me that dgs (8) wanted a particular gift ( Nintendo switch) and if I would like to give some money towards it they would be very grateful. I then just buy some little things eg pyjamas, chocolate for him to open too.
My ds and dil send their Amazon wish list and I choose items for them.
If your mil did this she would find life far easier and surely the pleasure is from seeing family open a gift they want.

TestingTestingWonTooFree · 08/11/2020 08:28

I agree on giving her specific guidance for something that will last/can be sold on, eg duplo/sulvanian families.

What about suggesting family zoo/farm membership for the year? And perhaps her being included so they could spend more time together? Or tickets for a day out somewhere exciting?

Hahaha88 · 08/11/2020 08:31

The clock had small pieces, it wasn't age appropriate and this would have been the case where ever it was purchased from. You seem a little bit precious bemoaning things purchased on amazon and ebay.
Regarding the issue of mil buying too much and things you don't need, you either accept it or have an upfront conversation with her before the event.
Let your kid open the boxes, but supervise and ensure bits aren't spread everywhere, that's the easiest fix here

forrestgreen · 08/11/2020 08:32

Set up and share an Amazon wish list.
Be explicit if she buys a duplicate itll stay at her house.
Aside from that I don't think you'll win.

ToffeePennie · 08/11/2020 08:42

Realistically what you have here is Granny, showering the child(ren) with gifts for Christmas.
Granny is trying her best to “buy” the children’s love/acceptance (as you say she doesn’t see the child often) so equates things to love.
I can see why granny would want to do this.
Equally, I can see why you don’t like it!
Can you not send a link to a smyths with each specific item on - a scooter, x book, that playset, these toys.
Then send her a link to Jojo maman bebe with those jeans, that tshirt and this hat.
Be super specific about what you want you child to have. (Because you do sound super snobby!) inform Granny that anything off the pre approved links is going into the charity pile as soon as it’s opened.
It will mean some unpleasantness but it seems you would rather monitor what she buys, so you will have to face that.

Sometimeswinning · 08/11/2020 08:52

I do think you have written this to appeal to everyone. Mil buys far too much crap for dd. How do I tell her to stop!? Most of us on here would have guessed what the crap was. Instead of you use paragraph after paragraph painting your mil in the worse light you possibly could.

Leave what you can round there. Tell her what dd wants. If she cries then that's her own silly fault. It's probably more to do with the fact you obviously dont like her.

Nearlysantatime · 08/11/2020 08:58

It’s awkward. Realistically I don’t think you are going to be able to improve this situation. My MIL is the same but not on tne money side of things - just buying the kids absolute crap presents (generally cheap too) that I wish she wouldn’t but we just smile and thank her and it inevitably gets taken to the charity shop before the following Christmas.

AliceMcK · 08/11/2020 09:00

She sounds high maintenance and your not going to change her. It’s a waste of money but there is nothing you can do about it.

Just take the stuff & either bin it or regift it. Expensive stuff you don’t want just on-sell. I did this with a gift last year, In-laws bought exact same thing we had, we bought 2nd hand of fb in-laws new but didn’t have a receipt apparently, as it was new inbox I sold on fb for almost full retail and got something my DD has played with daily ever since. I also throw a lot of the plastic stuff straight into a garden box so DC can play with them outside, if they get damaged I don’t care.

If she likes to spend money and spoil your DSmaybe think of something that you would like to collect for him, my DDs have the collection Disney figures, maybe drop into conversation your thinking of starting a collection of something so he can collect as he gets older but a lot of its expensive... you never know she may jump on it...

TellingBone · 08/11/2020 09:01

If she insists on DC opening presents then and there I'm surprised that DC hasn't said they've already got one [when that's the case].

Let her waste her money and let DH deal with her.

Bikingbear · 08/11/2020 09:17

I think you need to guide her spending. You must have an idea of what she spends. So think of something that will take up a chunk of the budget.

It will get easier as kids get bigger, as the stuff they want gets more expensive and smaller.
Meanwhile guide her spending, if you end up with doubles, hide it in the back of a cupboard use for next birthday party or donate to next years Christmas collections.

Amazon and Ebay both sell CE marked toys.

Newfornow · 08/11/2020 09:17

You do sound a little bit of a misery guts.
Set up an amazon wish list. Your mil can choose from there.

NullcovoidNovember · 08/11/2020 09:35

Make an internal mental decision to simply box up and gift to charity any extras you don't want.

She won't listen, the child doesn't want the toy.

Re bike sell it and put the money into an account for her.

NullcovoidNovember · 08/11/2020 09:37

Biking they have tried to guide and get toddler behaviour back.

You can't guide or change or reason with these types, it's why their dils end up on mn!!

tryinganotherusername · 08/11/2020 09:40

My Mil is the same, though my dc now teenage.
ILs are very financially comfortable, and MIL seems to have a combination of v low self esteem and a very big ego, and I think the grand gestures at Xmas and birthdays are a way of feeling good about herself and important within the family.
Over the years, I've tried to convey how uncomfortable I am with the volume and expense of presents, but to no avail, and we have ended up donating/returning/selling many items that just wouldn't be used. I've often felt really frustrated and upset myself as DCs Xmas sacks from ILs are always bigger than we could ever manage from Santa.
Nowadays, I try to look at it from a compassionate perspective. For whatever reason it's really important to her to do it, and I need to remember that it's no reflection on me that she can afford to throw money at buying things that I can't afford to offer my children.
DH now offers very specific ideas for quite expensive items, that we know will be useful and appreciated by dc. By suggesting more costly items it cuts down on the amount of additional random toot that we get.

Mummyoflittledragon · 08/11/2020 10:02

Why can’t you text your mil and say you were thinking about her offer to buy a bike and unfortunately your dd has one? Then give her suggestions. A trampoline, swing, slide etc.

Namechangearoo · 08/11/2020 10:19

@FallonsTeaRoom

Agree with you about Wish but eBay and Amazon both enforce EU regulations.

You sound snobby and it strongly comes across that you dislike/hate your mil. Well, she's your husband’s mother so tough.

I completely agree and have nothing to add to this.
SunflowerSeed1234 · 08/11/2020 10:45

"Amazon Marketplaceis an e-commerce platform owned and operated byAmazonthat enables third-partysellersto sell new or used products on a fixed-price onlinemarketplacealongsideAmazon'sregular offerings."

So it depends. If you check carefully yes you are buying from Amazon which will I assume have protected products and id be happy and grateful to accept. However sellers use and sell independently through there and these independent people are classed as market place traders meaning they don't have to stick by safety standards.

Honestly not snobby at all and it's upsetting to be called this 🙁, as I said no judgement at all for people that are happy to use it. It's just my personal preference. I'd rather a £3 toy from Tesco/argos that was a small character my child likes than something from somewhere I don't know has been tested. That my child isn't even interested in. The things she buys aren't boxed they often come in plastic bags like big sandwhich bags. So it hasn't had any safety checks.

I love the idea of a little collection of toys! That she can buy as something special she can add to. I will suggest that and see how we get on.

I think the thing that is really difficult is she asks me and then gets upset when I make a different suggestion. So right now she isn't talking to us because my child already has a bike and wouldn't like another.

I hate upsetting people too. It's just so difficult when you are quite different I suppose and have different traits.

I also find it so overwhelming watching so many presents be opened. We spend hours and hours on Christmas day opening presents. We have lunch and then sit for 4 hours opening gift after gift and then leave.
It's lovely to have lots of gifts but I'd much rather spend that time together ❤. Watch a harry potter film with some popcorn, play a board game, play charades etc.

Asking on here for friendly advice on what to do. Please be kind ❤

OP posts:
CatsOutOfTheBag · 08/11/2020 10:53

@FallonsTeaRoom

Agree with you about Wish but eBay and Amazon both enforce EU regulations.

You sound snobby and it strongly comes across that you dislike/hate your mil. Well, she's your husband’s mother so tough.

@SunflowerSeed1234 ignore her, you don't sound snobby. Its hard isn't it? But go for something expensive like Lego etc, then you have more chance of getting less tat iyswim Otherwise, get home and sit with the kids and see what they want to do with the toys that are over - charity, poorer children etc as long as the toys are safe
CatsOutOfTheBag · 08/11/2020 10:59

@ToffeePennie

''...inform Granny that anything off the pre approved links is going into the charity pile as soon as it’s opened''

This is far worse than what you think being a snob is!!

Whocutdownthecherrytree · 08/11/2020 11:04

It’s pretty simple, smile, say thank you. Donate/dispose of any surplus/dangerous goods. Move on. You say she doesn’t spend time with your DC so she wont notice. Remember the 5 love languages? Clearly hers is “buying gifts”, not quality time. She’s not interested in listening to your suggestions or contributing to you DC savings account. Or even buying something the kid actually wants. Just accept it and move on

honkytonkheroe · 08/11/2020 11:08

No suggestions but we had this with my SIL. I would suggest something Sylvanian families for example and she would buy a cheap version of Sylvanian Families, a T-shirt with characters on that they didn’t like and the wrong size, some make up that they were far too young for etc etc. SIL is lovely and loves buying Xmas presents but doesn’t see nieces/nephew enough to know what they liked and wanted to extend the joy of buying the presents by buying lots of bits and pieces. Kids are older now but still gets gifts from her. It’s a running joke and they’re always surprised if there is one items amongst the many that fit or is even half way appropriate.

sansou · 08/11/2020 11:11

Your DH deals with her. He sends her a short list of specific items - maybe the links to buy so she has the modicum of restricted choice. Otherwise, your DH should tell her straight - stick to the list/check with us first to reduce duplication/don’t waste her money.

Captainj1 · 08/11/2020 11:17

Smile, say thank you, and don’t think too hard about it. You won’t change her so don’t waste your energy and emotion on it.

My dad bought my son an Airfix ‘build your own combustion engine’ for Christmas once. Came in a huge box. Hundreds of tiny pieces, all grey. He neglected to buy the cement (glue) or the paints that were supposed to go with it. The age was 12+ and my son was 7, with weak fine motor skills and no knowledge or interest whatsoever in combustion engines. Smiled and said thank you. Son sees my dad maybe twice a year although he only lives 30 miles away (my dad sees his step grandchildren daily...). Has no idea who he is tbh. I can’t change him. Went under his bed for a year then gave it to charity (who probably also thought wtf 😂).

Serin · 08/11/2020 11:20

Come on, 4 hours opening presents?
Why dont you invite her over to yours instead, that way you set the itinerary and (unless she drives a flat bed truck) she would find it difficult to fit 4 hours worth of presents into her car.