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Ex has lost the plot and brainwashing DD

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JCWildWest · 07/11/2020 21:36

Sorry if this long.

We have been separated for over 10 years and share a teenage daughter. He’s a disgrace of a father and has had very little to do with DD for many years, sees her a few times a year, doesn’t pay maintenance etc despite all this DD adores him.

He started living an ‘alternative lifestyle’ a few years ago. He decided he wanted to live off grid and not be part of the capitalist system. I don’t entirely know what this entailed but from a far it seemed to involve being unemployed, sponging off his family and girlfriend and not washing very often.

Over the past 12-18 months this has escalated, he decided to become a practising ‘witch’ and started believing some peculiar things. It didn’t really worry me as it seemed to involve a lot of meditation and being kind to people and the planet so each to their own and it’s not harming anyone. Other than maybe DD because his communities and training seemed to occupy him so much he saw even less of her.

Heard not a peep from him over last Xmas, he didn’t send so much as a message over her birthday.

Then after lockdown lifted he started showing a renewed interest in seeing her. Still not a lot or regularly, he’s seen her about 5 times since then but for him that’s a lot.

Since then he has been imparting his ‘wisdom’ on DD with his, I’ll try to be nice, non mainstream views. DD has started getting into witchcraft and tarot cards etc off the back of this. I’ve again let it largely go by the by as experimenting.

Since she last saw him though she’s been going on about ‘the great awakening’ and preparing for this. I presumed it was something to do with the witchcraft as it coincides with the winter solstice.

But I’ve done a bit of digging and it isn’t. It’s actually an end of the world conspiracy. Ex believes there will be an enlightenment and that those who believe and have the prepared for the awakening will ascend to a higher consciousness. His preparations have included something that involves looking inside yourself and he believes it has caused him to uncover dark memories from his childhood which have caused him to have a mental breakdown. But is going ahead with his preparations. He believes he is a star being descended from Nordic aliens or something.

I’m getting really concerned he’s clearly not in his right mind, he’s been sending long rambly barely comprehensible messages to DD but she’s absorbing it all and believes a lot of it. I’m concerned this ‘ascension’ could involve something extreme or damaging. It’s almost like a cult and regardless of what I do or don’t believe in I’m very concerned about DD getting sucked into this stuff. I don’t like it, I’ve got a sick feeling in my stomach when I read some of the stuff he’s been sending her.

I just want to know what others might do in my shoes?

My gut tells me to keep her well away from him and cut the contact out.

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MuckyPlucky · 08/11/2020 08:03

It’s complete, because of course on one hand people are free to have their own belief systems without recrimination, but where does this start to shade into severe delusional mental illness? As a mental health professional myself I’ve had to examine this and make this call on a number of occasions, and I can totally see your dilemma here, especially as it involves possibly the safety of your DD.

In your position I think I’d definitely ring NSPCC as you suggest, and am pretty sure I’d ring Social Services for advice, and to put my mind at rest about the infant caught up in this. It’s worrying that this infant is being ‘home-schooled’ within an off-grid cult-type scenario, being exposed only to extremist views, in a family where Dad very possibly has an untreated severe mental health condition & that aren’t taking any covid precautions and are peddling a narrative of an impending ‘end of days’ scenario. That frightens the living daylights out of me from a safeguarding POV, and a call to Soc Services about your concerns would be the best course of action here. From this, things may well flow regarding your own DD which may help you not to be ‘bad cop’ when limiting contact until he is well/changed.

FWIW you sound like you’ve got your head incredibly well screwed on, and sound an amazing, bright and strong parent to your DD through what must be an incredibly hard situation.

JCWildWest · 08/11/2020 09:17

Thank you for everyone’s responses. It has made me feel somewhat vindicated in being concerned.

I will be monitoring it closely and following it up

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