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Received text from Ex's new girlfriend. AIBU to be thrilled that he will soon by dying of shame?

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Shameme0nce · 06/11/2020 17:55

God, I hope she's not on here!!

EXH and I have been apart for 4 years. We were together for 12 years and we split when DD was 5. I won't go into the ins and outs of the relationship but he checked out years before the split and, while I could never prove it, I suspect he was looking around. Marriage had been rocky for a number of reasons but, ultimately, it was his decision to split.

He's always been a challenge in terms of contact and maintenance. Don't get me wrong, he's a good dad but very much of the camp that his responsibility ends the second his day is up and it has been a battle to get to the point where we are at now where DD sees him two nights each week.

He Threw strops about using annual leave to cover a portion of school holidays but is always first to 'claim' her for the fun stuff like birthdays, Christmas, Halloween etc. The man wants to make memories but not deal with the drudgery and inconvenience of day to day life (one of the many reasons we are not compatible now!). I don't let him away with this behaviour but have learned over the years when to pick my battles.

Anyhow, about 18 months on from our split, I met my DP. I was very slow to bring him into my life because of DD and he moved in with us very recently, after two and a half years together. His relationship with DD is lovely but he respects the fact he's not her dad so, while supportive of my battles with Ex, he largely keeps out of it.

I am really not sure of how many 'girlfriends' ex has had. To his credit, he's never introduced any of them to DD as they clearly weren't important enough.

He has, however, in the last few months been seeing a woman in her mid 20s.
DD seems to like her. I feel the introduction was a bit soon and unnecessary given everything else that is going on, but not much I can do about that and as long as she's kind to DD, I'm happy.

Alongside this burgeoning relationship has been a renewed interest in DD. It's nice, if a little suspect, but DD is thrilled so again I'm happy to facilitate. He's seeing her for a few extra days during the Christmas holidays which will be lovely for her.

Now bearing in mind I don't know this woman, haven't spoken to her, not been introduced, have no idea what she looks like... I'm not sure how I'm supposed to respond to this text I got from ex's phone....

Hi Shame,
It's X. Hope u and DD r gud. Can utell her we r lking forward to seeing her on Sunday.
(Ex) told me about Xmas plans and I now it's not really my place, but I'm concernd about how much time DD is spending at our house.
I now ur busy with work but DD needs consistency and we think the going backwards n forwards so much during the week is 2 much 4 her. I know (ex) is happy to c her so much but I think we all shud sit down and work out a plan that works for us all. I feel like I never get to see (Ex) alone anymore and I now u can understand how important 1 on 1 time is at the start of a new relationship (haha!) . Mabe we cud sit down for a coffee on Sunday?

It's wrong on so, so many levels:

  1. Sent from ex's number. Why do you have his phone? Also, there is ZERO chance of him ever saying anything like this.
  2. Is 5 nights a week not enough one to one time? They both WFH at moment too.
  3. Wtf does she mean by the haha? .
  4. The mix of text speak and formal English is massively jarring. Pick one or the other. Commit, woman!
  5. She wants more time to'get to know him'? She's met our child and has moved in, presumably in the space of a few months.

The best bit of all of this is that SHE thinks the additional time with DD is being driven by me when it's actually EX showboating to highlight his amazing father credentials.

It is a glorious mess and half the joy is coming from knowing that Ex is going to be so embarrassed. I can't decide what my next move should be.

Vipers, ho!

OP posts:
FilledSoda · 07/11/2020 14:43

Well handled .
Just leave it now , don't overthink it.

JocelynSchitt · 07/11/2020 14:44

He admitted that they had had conversations about how nice it is when it's 'just them' and that they'd discussed how it would be if it was just them permanently. It was just fantasy

That’s so upsetting. I dont think i could get past that comment alone.

londonscalling · 07/11/2020 14:48

I'd be telling my ex that I am disgusted he is with someone who wants to ditch our child. I'd also be saying that, because of this, I'm therefore not happy to drop my daughter there whilst his girlfriend is in the house!

diddl · 07/11/2020 14:50

"I'd also be saying that, because of this, I'm therefore not happy to drop my daughter there whilst his girlfriend is in the house!"

Probably a win for the ex then!

4ds02719 · 07/11/2020 14:52

13:59DartmoorDoughnut

She's at home. Let her have a life. Presumably mummy is distracted on Mumsnet and she knows something is off. The op could make cupcakes and probably should.

Shameme0nce · 07/11/2020 15:39

We've had a lovely few hours at the park and compromised by buying cupcakes. The cheap ones. I am a petty bitch at the end of the day.

If Ex is not involved in the text debacle, I think they've probably been discussing how nice it is to get a break rather than it being how nice it would be if she didn't exist. I hope so anyway. I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt in that the conversation was hopefully more along the lines of 'it would be so nice if we could get a full week once lockdown is over so we can go away to an expensive hotel, I can treat you etc. but we've got DD to consider so we can't'.

Its taken many, many years to get to the point where I don't react to his bullshit instantly. I've learned that I need to repress all feelings and approach as a robot or I sacrifice the high ground. Its mine and I'm not giving it away again!!!

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Shameme0nce · 07/11/2020 15:40

DD is absolutely oblivious and it will stay that way.

OP posts:
Shameme0nce · 07/11/2020 15:40

And I'm loving the CF stories. Keep them coming

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lyralalala · 07/11/2020 15:47

@Shameme0nce

DD is absolutely oblivious and it will stay that way.
That's absolutely the best way while she's so young.

When she's older, if it's an issue, keep it age appropriate rather than completely shielding her would be my advice.

A slow realisation is much less harsh than a horrible sharp shock one day.

LadyTiredWinterBottom2 · 07/11/2020 15:53

I wonder if new gf meant for just you and her to meet to discuss it without your ex. Very odd.

lyralalala · 07/11/2020 15:55

@Shameme0nce

And I'm loving the CF stories. Keep them coming
I could write a book about Ex and his now-ex-wife.

My absolute fabourite was when for two whole years in a row ex insisted, by the public medium of Facebook, I let him take the girls out to buy their school shoes, bags and coat and I could just square him up for my half.

It was very amusing that he made such a song and dance about it, but it reduced my costs and meant I could avoid the arseache of shoe shopping.

On the third year he did it my "half" seemed unusually high so I questioned it with him. Turns out their DS was starting school that year so "to keep it simple" they'd just split the bill for all three in half.

Ex stood his ground on that being fair right up until I suggested he take my two younger children out and include them "to keep it simple". He told me to forget my half if I was going to be so petty and never bought them so much as a pencil ever again.

SunshineCake · 07/11/2020 16:40

I'm the child of a woman who chose her boyfriend over her child and I never lived with a parent again. Hadn't since I was under two but when I was not much older than your dd I could have moved back with her. There is no coming back from your parent choosing a lover over their child.

HouseOfHearts · 07/11/2020 16:53

SunshineCake that's so sad Flowers

OP, you sound like one strong and sensible woman.

MonClareDevole · 07/11/2020 16:59

Although you’ve already spoken to Ex but I’d have to sit down for a ‘coffee’ with this woman to ensure that she understands it will never be her place to comment on the arrangements you and your ex have regarding your daughter and most definitely put her in her place. I would be beyond cross if I was in your shoes.

ValleyoftheTrolls · 07/11/2020 17:37

@SunshineCake

I'm the child of a woman who chose her boyfriend over her child and I never lived with a parent again. Hadn't since I was under two but when I was not much older than your dd I could have moved back with her. There is no coming back from your parent choosing a lover over their child.
@SunshineCake, me too and this thread has brought up a lot of difficult feelings as neither of my parents sought regular access once I was living with my Grandma.

My mother walked out and never looked back and my father took me to live with my Grandma. Once he had a new girlfriend, now wife, I barely saw him and was never made to feel welcome in their house, especially once they had children.

The way @Shameme0nce has dealt with this is beyond amazing to me. The way that she puts her DD front and centre of everything is wonderful and as it should be.

SunshineCake · 07/11/2020 17:55

I'm glad you had Grandma @ValleyoftheTrolls. Not an option for me at two and then when it may have been at 14 the officials said no Angry.

Flutter12 · 07/11/2020 18:21

That is so sad to hear from those who have had a parent choose a relationship over them.

I know of 3 people who had a good relationship with their ex and co-parented really well until a new gf came along and they decide to not see their kids again. One hasn’t seen his DCs for 10 years because “the gf wouldn’t like it”.

Shameme0nce · 07/11/2020 18:27

It's so sad this happens to people. I can't understand a parent opting out as it's not as of you're choosing whether or not to get a take away-the decision has significant and long-term consequences.
I hope Exh has either given her short shrift or, if he was in on it, has got a measure of my unwillingness to engage in his ridiculous scheme.

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DC3Dakota · 07/11/2020 18:29

@Shameme0nce

It's so sad this happens to people. I can't understand a parent opting out as it's not as of you're choosing whether or not to get a take away-the decision has significant and long-term consequences. I hope Exh has either given her short shrift or, if he was in on it, has got a measure of my unwillingness to engage in his ridiculous scheme.
Have you heard from him since he said he'd "deal with it?'
DC3Dakota · 07/11/2020 18:32

@Shameme0nce

It's so sad this happens to people. I can't understand a parent opting out as it's not as of you're choosing whether or not to get a take away-the decision has significant and long-term consequences. I hope Exh has either given her short shrift or, if he was in on it, has got a measure of my unwillingness to engage in his ridiculous scheme.
My daughter's Dad chose his girlfriend and walked away from our then-1yr old little girl who adored him 😢 It's been almost 5 years and he still hasn't seen her. She still asks when he's coming home even though I've done everything I can to make sure he's not mentioned and she's frequently reassured that I am both her parents, that families come in all different shapes & sizes etc etc. So heartbreaking
SunshineCake · 07/11/2020 18:43

@Shameme0nce and @DC3Dakota your daughters will be fine as they have you.

Neither parent wanted me and in fact, when I was happy and settled my mother caused problems so I had to be moved. Where I was unhappy, neglected and abused she stayed away. Your children are in a much better place and as long as they have you, they know you love them, they know you will always be there, they will be okay Flowers.

GwendolineMarysLaces · 07/11/2020 18:49

How can he not have known? If you'd texted back to his phone he would have seen it, surely?

CallmeAngelina · 07/11/2020 18:54

@SunshineCake Flowers for you

MeridianB · 07/11/2020 19:06

You have such dignity, OP.

He sounds shallow and she sounds like a joke.

DD is entitled to time alone with her dad and not having this muppet hanging round the whole time.

I’d be thinking about longer term I’d bank on him seeing her less.

RealBecca · 07/11/2020 19:13

100% written soley by him.

What his gf sees is him seeing more if his kid. Then he tells her that you reduced contact. Poor him. He gets more 1:1 time.

Doubt she's even seen the text.

Next time I wouldn't reply at all to anything "from her". Make him say it himself. Then you have valid evidence if you want to stop or reduce contact if it warrants it.