That animal owners should practice what they preach.

[Queencercei]

I just want to start this by saying I absolutely hate fireworks, I am extremely scared of them and am currently writing this with headphones in with very loud music to try to mask the sound. I would 100% support banning fireworks and do feel so sorry for all the animals that are terrified of them.

There are lots of posts from animal owners asking for people to be considerate and not set off fireworks for their animals. However I live in a neighbourhood that is very popular with animals and constantly hear barking all day long, frequently very early in the morning (about 6/7 o’clock) and I’ve lost count of how much dog crap I’ve had to clean up from my front garden from owners not picking up after their animals and constantly having to look where I’m going when out walking in case I step in any.

Obviously I wouldn’t set off fireworks but can I can see why non animal owners would not be considerate for one day of the year when we have to deal with this all year round.

AIBU to think that if you want other people to be considerate towards your animals that you should also be considerate to non animal owners.

I do wish whoever it is who lets their dog shit outside my house wouldn’t.

I do wish people who let their dogs approach my child wouldn’t.

I do wish people would train their dogs so they didn’t jump up on people or try to kick their sandwiches in the park.

Yes.

I am considerate thank you unlike my anti-social arsehole littering fireworks loving neighbours.

I like animals and we have a few pets, it seems to be only dog owners who slip over into believing their pets are people, whom actual people should plan their lives around. Absolutely bonkers. If one of my pets couldn't cope with the world, to the extent that I was telling strangers how to behave around it, I would have it put down.

one of my pets couldn't cope with the world, to the extent that I was telling strangers how to behave around it, I would have it put down.

I'm living in hope that any animals you have have been taxidermied and aren't living beings with that attitude. The world does not need to involve explosives.

What a stupid opinion. Some people are inconsiderate - whether they are dog-lovers, firework-lovers, both or neither.

Just because some humans who own dogs are inconsiderate arseholes, dogs deserve to be traumatised by explosions. Yes. That makes perfect sense. it’s not only dogs who can be affected but wildlife and horses etc. Think about what you’re saying, I’m not sure anyone could be that ignorant in real life.

I only have 3 dogs now, 1 of them is terrified of fireworks, she is currently medicated with amatriptiline and valium. The problem isn't the 5th Nov as we expect fireworks and can prepare for it, it's people setting them off on other days as it's not expected. Yes you should take responsibility and clean up after your pets.

@IHateWasps

one of my pets couldn't cope with the world, to the extent that I was telling strangers how to behave around it, I would have it put down.

I'm living in hope that any animals you have have been taxidermied and aren't living beings with that attitude. The world does not need to involve explosives.

If the animal can't cope with the real world then it is cruel to keep it alive. I take it you're one of the people whose dogs have a huge list of instructions so they don't bite everyone within range

TAAT.

If the animal can't cope with the real world then it is cruel to keep it alive. I take it you're one of the people whose dogs have a huge list of instructions so they don't bite everyone within range

Again the real world normally doesn't involve fucking explosives but what would you know about that seeing as you're clearly in cloud cuckoo cuckoo land. And no, my dogs have never growled at anyone let alone bitten.

A dog barking probably doesn't terrify you though, you can understand that people can be arsehole owners. Animals scared by fireworks just feel terror and can't comprehend it. Obviously that includes wild animals and livestock too, who probably don't bother you too much on a daily basis.

I don't think every scared dog owner is an irresponsible one otherwise I would understand your point as lazy dog ownership is the worst.

Yes that makes perfect sense. Not. Irresponsible owners don’t pick up after their dogs and let them bark enough to annoy the neighbours should absolutely be subjected to nights of fear because of fireworks.

@GertiMJN

What a stupid opinion. Some people are inconsiderate - whether they are dog-lovers, firework-lovers, both or neither.

This. x100

I’m not saying that people should set off fireworks to scare animal owners because some are inconsiderate, but if you was planning on doing something and then someone asked you not to do it because you are being inconsiderate to them when they have been extremely inconsiderate to you, would you change your plans.

Scare animals not animal owners

@LeahDownTheLane

Yes that makes perfect sense. Not. Irresponsible owners don’t pick up after their dogs and let them bark enough to annoy the neighbours should absolutely be subjected to nights of fear because of fireworks.

And the dog and dog owners who are responsible? They should just suffer because it’d make you feel all self righteously happy?

Why is everyone so angry all the time? What happened to empathy?

I am a responsible owner. I don’t mind fireworks. I know how much some people love them, and goodness knows we need a little joy right now. I do wish they’d not go on for weeks and weeks. I wished that when I didn’t have a dog. Why does it have to be a polarised ‘us versus them’ for every single game thing? It’s so ... exhausting.

There should at least be limits on how many you can buy and how loud/powerful they can be. One neighbour's fireworks honestly sound like professional grade. I've never heard any so loud.

@refriedbeanstalk

I like animals and we have a few pets, it seems to be only dog owners who slip over into believing their pets are people, whom actual people should plan their lives around. Absolutely bonkers. If one of my pets couldn't cope with the world, to the extent that I was telling strangers how to behave around it, I would have it put down.

Some of the 'fur baby' (in the real world dog owners) are absolutely bonkers.... they really do think their pooches are babies - no wonder they quiver at bangs and have social anxiety/separation anxiety and various other human type behaviours. Can you imagine early dog/wolf needing medication for separation anxiety

Clothing, spray painting, fur babies ..... I mean some even let them sleep in their beds - how skanky is that

You’re not being unreasonable because I’m sick to death of dog shit.

But the problem with fireworks is it’s not just one night. It’s been going on round here for weeks. And people set them off all year, for birthdays, anniversaries, random shit things. If it was one night of the year to suck it up it’d be fine. But by the time bonfire night actually arrives I’m fucking done with it.

The fireworks laws need strengthening, in my opinion.

And i don’t have any pets. And my toddler is sleeping. I’m just done with it being another excuse for anti social behaviour from nob heads 😂

@refriedbeanstalk

That is ridiculous, the real world doesn't usually involve explosives The reason why a lot of animals dislike them is because they are so out of the ordinary. It is not just dogs. It is cats that can be very negatively affected too, not to mention smaller animals and livestock. Wildlife suffers too, especially hedgehogs if thoughtless people don't think to check the bonfires.

What about people with PTSD who are badly affected by fireworks? Should we put them down too?

Good grief.

It's not one day of the year though is it!

It starts a few days before Nov 5th and it will go on for a few days after, then we have NYE too

As for dogs barking and shiting, the dog itself doesn't know right from wrong. It's down to the owner. In a nutshell what you're saying is that animals should be punished and scared for doing what they do naturally

Shall we punish babies for crying too?

Oh yawn.
You honestly believe that children and people with some SEN and/or PTSD/MH/degenerative/conditions, wildlife and pets deserve to be scared absolutely witless and genuinely traumatised, sometimes to the point of harm and even death, because some arseholes don't pick up their dog's shit? You think it's fair to punish everybody and every thing but the people responsible for your annoyance? You are a seriously dysfunctional human being. I pity you actually. Imagine thinking this is in any way ok?

Obviously I wouldn’t set off fireworks but can I can see why non animal owners would not be considerate for one day of the year when we have to deal with this all year round.

What have inconsiderate arseholes got to do with other inconsiderate arseholes tormenting and terrifying animals?

I do think some dog owners personify their dogs too much.

I mean my dog dislikes everything from horses to noisy binmen to the postman - I can’t reasonably ask all these people to adjust their lives and stop their reasonable activities to pander to my dog. Although I love him, he is just a dog at the end of the day.

fireworks go where when set off?? do people go round and collect them up or leave them to smoulder where they land...then litter the place once cold?