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AIBU or are the lives of school staff worthless?

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Witchcraftandhokum · 01/11/2020 11:42

I fully appreciate that the education and mental well-being of children is important but why does it trump the physical and mental health of school staff? The facts are simple, people are being told to stay at home because it is unsafe to do otherwise, unless you work in education or the NHS who are provided with effective PPE.

On a daily basis I am expected to supervise the diner where 150 students eat lunch (obviously mask free) if I wish to eat I am also mask free. I have to supervise the same 150 children in narrow corridors. For this pupils are supposed to wear masks but there are a number who refuse (not the students who are exempt) and we cannot enforce it. We hand out hundreds of masks per week to students whose parents don't ensure they have one with them.

We are not allowed to wear masks in classrooms but are given visors which aren't as effective. The children are not allowed to wear masks in classrooms. None of this are rules imposed by the school but are in-line with the government guidance.

We have students who say they have developed a cough knowing we have to send them home, we cannot make the decision as to whether they are lying or not, but I've been verbally abused by parents calling me "fucking stupid" for not knowing when a child is lying.

Before half-term we had 25% of staff off sick as they had tested positive (including myself). There are many experts stating schools should be shut but Boris has done a fantastic job of insinuating that school staff are lazy and don't want to work, and the early response to the unions concerns shows that this is working. I've never suffered with stress or anxiety but the thought of a return to school tomorrow is making me feel sick.

Talking to colleagues who work in other schools it appears my experience is not unusual. So AIBU to think that this government doesn't give a shiny shit about school staff.

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PheasantPlucker1 · 01/11/2020 11:48

Completely agree. We have pupils throwing masks at each other and us. Many positive cases, but theyre being kept quiet so they dont fuck attendance figures.

Teachers are testing positive but no cleaning being done of staff rooms or shared areas. Classrooms being tidied (not cleaned) twice a week. Cleaners jobs have tripled, Im not blaming them.

Demands from SLT to carry on as normal, teachers social distancing in class is frowned upon as we need to be enganging with them.

Im exhausted, and term hasnt started yet

NannyGythaOgg · 01/11/2020 11:48

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freeandfierce · 01/11/2020 11:51

I feel very vulnerable having shielded for three months now to be in contact with over 70 adult learners weekly carrying out vocational teaching. I've got 34 crammed into a workshop for 20, but as I keep being told 'we need the money'. I have to supervise these adults when they arrive because they don't wear masks, wash or santatise hands unless I direct them.

RingPiece · 01/11/2020 11:55

If you won't do the job you are being paid to do...
Who is this directed to, Nanny?
Either you've posted on the wrong thread or you haven't understood the OP. Try rereading it.

Waveysnail · 01/11/2020 11:56

If you have had the virus - are you not effectively immune for next 6 months at least?

Storyoftonight · 01/11/2020 11:57

@NannyGythaOgg

If you won't do the job you are being paid to do by the taxes we are paying for you to teach and care for children why are you still claiming your wages?
What a ridiculous comment not even worth a response.

OP, why are you all not allowed to wear masksnFlowers

Waveysnail · 01/11/2020 11:58

Would u be shouting to close the schools if you were not going to be paid while schools closed?

Witchcraftandhokum · 01/11/2020 11:59

Storyoftonight because the government guidance states we don't have to.

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Theimpossiblegirl · 01/11/2020 11:59

@Waveysnail

Would u be shouting to close the schools if you were not going to be paid while schools closed?
No, because teachers would still be working providing keyworker care and home learning. Again.
gingerbreadfox · 01/11/2020 11:59

YABU to think people and the government don't care. I think school has been the most debated topic during COVID and I can see how awful it would be is schools did close (don't have DC myself but have seen my friends who are parents pushed to the max with kids at home, almost having mental breakdowns).

But YANBU regarding the PPE. You should be allowed to wear a mask IMO of that is what will make you feel safer.

CoronaIsWatching · 01/11/2020 12:00

Just get on with it like the rest of us.

PheasantPlucker1 · 01/11/2020 12:00

Waveysnail I asked to be put on furlough in April, so yes.

user1487194234 · 01/11/2020 12:01

I think you have to get on with it or resign

PheasantPlucker1 · 01/11/2020 12:02

Coronaiswatching can you name one other workplace where staff are being told not to wear masks?

Just one.

Witchcraftandhokum · 01/11/2020 12:02

waveysnail is there medical evidence to say that you can't catch it twice in 6 months?

Also I'd take serious protective measures over closing schools in a day, but that's not going to happen. And when the schools shut last time we were still working, in fact I did much longer hours. If we didn't have to do that then I'd happily be furloughed.

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dontdisturbmenow · 01/11/2020 12:03

Education is essential as many other jobs. why should school staff be especially protected when other essential staff aren't?

Witchcraftandhokum · 01/11/2020 12:03

user why are we different to the rest of the population though?

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MonicaBelulaGellar · 01/11/2020 12:04

Stop moaning and just deal with it! A lot of us still have to go out to work and put ourselves ar risk. We are all in the same boat here!!! I dont have any childcare when the nurseries close and I still have to go out to work because I work for the NHS. Just think yourself lucky your not on a covid ward kissing your kids goodbye everyday wondering what the day will bring. Sick of the moaning now, we are ALL aware of what's going on!

Witchcraftandhokum · 01/11/2020 12:05

coronaiswatching like who? For everyone else there is effective PPE or lockdown

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MonicaBelulaGellar · 01/11/2020 12:05

@dontdisturbmenow

Education is essential as many other jobs. why should school staff be especially protected when other essential staff aren't?
This!
Witchcraftandhokum · 01/11/2020 12:05

MonicaBelulaGeller are you provided with effective PPE?

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Bambooble · 01/11/2020 12:06

If you won't do the job you are being paid to do by the taxes we are paying for you to teach and care for children why are you still claiming your wages?

That popular contract clause teachers sign up to, to work through a pandemic with the government doing fuck all to try and minimise the risk. I do agree schools need to stay open, the (lack of) support, guidance and funding needed for schools to more safely do so from the government is disgusting.

CoronaIsWatching · 01/11/2020 12:06

@PheasantPlucker1

Coronaiswatching can you name one other workplace where staff are being told not to wear masks?

Just one.

Mine, I work in one.
Bambooble · 01/11/2020 12:07

Education is essential as many other jobs. why should school staff be especially protected when other essential staff aren't?

Keen to hear what these others jobs are that have the same conditions currently as teachers? I'll wait.

oneglassandpuzzled · 01/11/2020 12:07

@PheasantPlucker1

Completely agree. We have pupils throwing masks at each other and us. Many positive cases, but theyre being kept quiet so they dont fuck attendance figures.

Teachers are testing positive but no cleaning being done of staff rooms or shared areas. Classrooms being tidied (not cleaned) twice a week. Cleaners jobs have tripled, Im not blaming them.

Demands from SLT to carry on as normal, teachers social distancing in class is frowned upon as we need to be enganging with them.

Im exhausted, and term hasnt started yet

This awful situation is your SLT’s fault. Not the government’s.

It does sound dreadful.