Salons/dentists/gyms/driving lessons ?

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Please don't moan that i'm selfish for wanting these things, just want to know if they'll be going ahead/open or not.

You'll just have to wait then.

How is Mumsnet supposed to know before the announcement?

Let me check my crystal ball.

What I can’t understand is if they do close them what was the point in them making themselves Covid secure just to close again? Especially when places like hairdressers are unlikely to be where the cases are coming from

According to the leaks it'll be the same as March apart from education. So likely all shut.

And I agree its annoying when they are Covid secure and the stats show they're not adding to infection rates

Incredibly irritating post. Wait and see like the rest of the population. What's the point of asking or speculating?

@AlaskaThunderfuckHiiiiiiiii

What I can’t understand is if they do close them what was the point in them making themselves Covid secure just to close again? Especially when places like hairdressers are unlikely to be where the cases are coming from

True, but the idea will be to shut down all possible places where the virus could spread - regardless of whether it's a high risk venue or not.

It's not that the virus won't spread in hairdressers or before 10pm or only if you're eating with your pint, it's that each shutdown means one less route for the virus to spread through.

@Lockheart I understand that but it just seems a monumental waste of time these places putting in the procedures they have to be Covid secure, many will not survive another lockdown

Not even that, it just gives people less to go out for, so they stay at home. Has a single person caught covid from a swimming pool for example? I bet they will be closed though, just to stop people going out.

These questions today on every other thread ffs

Just wait for the bloody announcement that’s to come that will tell you

We can’t tell you

There's absolutely no point in speculating op, no one can give you the answer.

I agree about the waste of time with making places covid secure, too.

People have said that the cases were already dropping in March because of banning mass gatherings, encouraging working from home etc even before the lockdown was announced. We have far more in place now, so why isn't it working now?

True, but the idea will be to shut down all possible places where the virus could spread - regardless of whether it's a high risk venue or not.

But keeping schools, colleges & universities open? Where is the sense in that? They're not 'bubbles' - especially if you have children at different schools, parents are teachers in different schools etc. Children are more likely to be super spreaders.

@iklboogeymum

True, but the idea will be to shut down all possible places where the virus could spread - regardless of whether it's a high risk venue or not.

But keeping schools, colleges & universities open? Where is the sense in that? They're not 'bubbles' - especially if you have children at different schools, parents are teachers in different schools etc. Children are more likely to be super spreaders.

Because education is more vital a service than perming and highlighting.

You shut down everything else you can in order to keep the essentials of your society running first - pubs, clothes shops etc.

Only if it becomes absolutely dire should you start shutting down education and other public services.

Because getting an education is 1000 times more important than going for a haircut or getting your nails done.

@AlaskaThunderfuckHiiiiiiiii

What I can’t understand is if they do close them what was the point in them making themselves Covid secure just to close again? Especially when places like hairdressers are unlikely to be where the cases are coming from

The government have been ignoring scientific advice for ages and dreaming up compromise policies instead.

So the “point” was balancing economics with health. But that is failing now.

I assume they will all be closed again. Although it is only minor in the scheme of things I am disappointed that my dd’s driving test in December will prob be cancelled after having to wait so long for it (as they haven’t managed to clear the backlog of tests from the last lockdown).

@Heyahun

These questions today on every other thread ffs

Just wait for the bloody announcement that’s to come that will tell you

We can’t tell you

We've been waiting for the announcement for bloody hours! No wonder people are speculating. Had time to book in the kids' haircuts before hairdresser's close again.

Shutting down everywhere that is Covid secure is going to be counter-productive, I think. Being able to go somewhere like a restaurant where you could at least see other human beings living a vaguely normal life was a huge pleasure. And, certainly round here, the venues were all being very careful not to allow mixing. Now the only place people can see others is in a domestic setting, which is the one setting we are constantly told is the worst for spreading. And yes, it may be illegal, but people will crack, and people know they can't send the police round everyone's house every hour.

I'm not arsed about hair cuts or nails. But DH is self employed and another lockdown will hit us hard. Along with many, many others.

I would keep everything open
No lockdown, no further restrictions
Any vulnerable can shield if they wish so

I’m done with making sacrifices

The responses you are getting are a bit fucking dopey, OP. I want to know this info too!

Fair enough if the bloody announcement was actually on time. But it was meant to be at 4pm. It’s now gone 6pm! It’s disgraceful that they’re leaking things and can’t even be bothered to turn up on time to tell us we’re all about to face financial ruin. Fucking amateur hour, as usual with this bloody government.

Fair enough if the bloody announcement was actually on time. But it was meant to be at 4pm. It’s now gone 6pm! It’s disgraceful that they’re leaking things and can’t even be bothered to turn up on time to tell us we’re all about to face financial ruin

I’m no Boris fan, but you do realise he didn’t do the leaking or want the leaking? He is a leakee not a leaker.

From what has been leaked I'm guessing not to all of those. Pretty sure they want this to be a really strict lockdown so nothing but essential shops and schools and building/manufacturing. Who knows though?!