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Johnmenses · 2020-10-30T19:28:08+00:00

I'd booked a meal tonight in a tier 2 restaurant. One bubble. This was clarified when I'd phoned earlier in week. We arrived in 4 cars for various reasons. The Front of house politely questioned how we could come 4 cars and still be in one bubble. [confused] I have utmost of respect for the work hospitality staff do (I work similarly) but it's not their role to police our journeys. AIBU?

JuliaJohnston · 30/10/2020 22:34

@callmeadoctor

YANBU, FGS what has the world come to? businesses can't be watching car parks FGS!!!

Ridiculous post. Businesses, in a time when breaking the rules can result in a £10k fine, can do whatever the hell they please.

FlyingSquid · 30/10/2020 22:54

@SallyTheSloth

I thought a support bubble can only have up to 3 adults (the adult living alone + another adult/couple) and a single household is pretty unlikely to have 4 adults in it so I can see why they asked.

We’re technically a household of five adults (and too many cars). They moved out for uni and then they moved back... plus we’ve a big teen still at home.

MyCatTibby · 30/10/2020 23:05

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saraclara · 30/10/2020 23:05

@Jux

How did you know the next table occupants weren't from one household?

OP has already explained that. RTFT.

cautiouscovidity · 30/10/2020 23:37

@Johnmenses

The 4 car requirements.

DD1 (21) in own car, heading to see boyfriend after the meal, to sit in gazebo before anyone asks. He lives 3 Miles the other side of venue.

DD2 in own car coming from work. If we'd have managed to get 6pm as we'd preferred, she would have travelled with me.

My DF in his own car. We are still keeping away from him, despite him being in our bubble. I haven't hugged him since March 9th This evening at the table was the closest we've been since then.

Me, DD3 (17) AND DS in my car. Though she could have gone in her car as she's just passed and thrilled with the achievement. But obvs I didn't want to piss MN off too much

There could have been a fifth car as DH works away in the week and could have joined us on way home. But that makes 7, so we had to leave him out.

I think you're allowed to be a group of more than 6 providing you're the same household (including support bubble members).

Jux · 30/10/2020 23:55

saraclara I had read as much of the thread as there was at the time I typed my question. I even scrolled back up the thread to make sure I hadn't missed it. Then life happened for a little while, and when it stopped happening I posted my question.

Even now there's only the presumption that the two couples constitute two different and separate households. They could all 4 live in the same house, the one they're renovating; or live in one house while one couple are fixing up another house to move into when they've finished.

Sorry to have pissed you off. (I'd've waited until about 30 people had asked the question, with firstly op answering multiple times, and then many other posters answering for her too, before I told someone to RTFT, maybe a little earlier for RTT though, but still not quite as early as you did. I thought that was quite rude.))

Jux · 30/10/2020 23:57

So, op, how did you know that the people on the other table did not come from one household?

Don't worry, I don't care.

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Johnmenses · 31/10/2020 00:02

When one couple said "you know how when we go upstairs in our house abd the bathroom door is on the right? Well, we're planning on moving that over a bit" etc.

And the other couple showed photos on the phone of the new fire pit searing area in their garden.

So I reckon they live separately.

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Jux · 31/10/2020 00:18

That's pretty conclusive!

Ariela · 31/10/2020 00:31

@JuliaJohnston

Are you part of the same household? What reasons could you possibly have for driving to the restaurant in four separate cars?! I would have questioned you too. In fact, I don't quite believe you...

One from home, 3 from work? It wouldn't be massively unusual in our household: one from home, one from work, one from stables, one from doing something else.

callmeadoctor · 31/10/2020 09:16

I am with you OP. So businesses are paying staff to overlook the car park now in order not to get a 10k fine, really? What absolute nonsense and quite frankly I would love any business to come on here and say that this is sensible. And some posters on here think that the businesses are in the right. What will they do next week, follow customers home?

callmeadoctor · 31/10/2020 09:18

Of course, it won't happen next week as we will be in lockdown. Pubs will be shut so they won't have to worry about a 10k fine, they won't have a business!

Tryingourbest23 · 31/10/2020 09:22

What's the issue here OP?

You told them you were one household of 6 people and turned up in 4 cars. It does look suspect. You yourself recognise they're near borders of county. It's Natural for restaurant to ask you- which is all they did- as you enter since it is a huge fine for them and important for Covid safety of their business. . They hardly interrogated you!!! Reasonable question asked and answered.

I don't understand why OP made something out of so little whilst also being so blasé about how poorly they managed their transport that day for a 'one household' family.

Also does DF not live with them? That is bizarre that he is well enough to go to restaurant to sit inside for a couple hours with all that exposure to other people yet too unwell to be given a lift with window open by one of the DD's.

Tryingourbest23 · 31/10/2020 09:29

Also does DF not live with them? That is bizarre that he is well enough to go to restaurant to sit inside for a couple hours with all that exposure to other people yet too unwell to be given a lift with window open by one of the DD's.

I meant DF (DGF) is either in their household support bubble already with the DDs (or any of OPs household family) who could have given him a lift, or he's not.

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Johnmenses · 31/10/2020 12:08

@Tryingourbest23

I'm sorry, I don't understand what you're saying about my DF.

He doesn't live with us, but he's in our bubble as he lives alone.

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JuliaJohnston · 31/10/2020 12:54

@Johnmenses

When one couple said "you know how when we go upstairs in our house abd the bathroom door is on the right? Well, we're planning on moving that over a bit" etc.

And the other couple showed photos on the phone of the new fire pit searing area in their garden.

So I reckon they live separately.

Maybe, having taken the trouble to drive to the restaurant in four cars, you should have chatted amongst yourselves instead of earwigging next door's very mundane conversation! Honestly! 😂

Dangermouseis42now · 31/10/2020 13:28

[quote Johnmenses]@Tryingourbest23

I'm sorry, I don't understand what you're saying about my DF.

He doesn't live with us, but he's in our bubble as he lives alone.
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There was no reason your DDs couldn't collect him, as he's in your bubble

One DD who was going off takes him , then other (who was working) brings him home. Fair enough one was coming straight from work at 5.15pm

It was odd behaviour to take 4 cars for 6 people from a single household/ support bubble. Just that little bit excessive and suspect

Venue had every right to ask you a reasonable question and accept your answer confirming you were one household

You hardly got interrogated and it's ridiculous for you to complain about a minor Covidsafe question for their business

If this is all that's bothered you....

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Johnmenses · 31/10/2020 13:48

Just because he's in our bubble doesn't mean we have to ignore risk.

As I've said previously, we haven't touched him since March. Going in a car with someone else was a risk he wasn't prepared to take. Sitting at a table of 6 in a spaced out restaurant was considered thoroughly and decided to be an acceptable take.

Plenty of other things to worry about, too.

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Johnmenses · 31/10/2020 13:48

*be bothered about, too.

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Frankola · 31/10/2020 14:46

Quite frankly, saying you are in one bubble and then arriving in 4 cars looks suspicious.

Its them who would be fined and get in trouble if you were breaking the rules. So I dont blame them for asking.

How much has this actually affected you?

Dangermouseis42now · 01/11/2020 03:10

@Johnmenses

Just because he's in our bubble doesn't mean we have to ignore risk.

As I've said previously, we haven't touched him since March. Going in a car with someone else was a risk he wasn't prepared to take. Sitting at a table of 6 in a spaced out restaurant was considered thoroughly and decided to be an acceptable take.

Plenty of other things to worry about, too.

It's. not ' someone else ' tho is it? It's someone in his support bubble

Risk is higher in restaurant than being inside a house and a car with someone in his support bubble

You're fudging this , it's illogical

He's either in your support bubble or you're never were one household , you were two households

lyralalala · 01/11/2020 03:21

@Johnmenses You didn't have to leave your DH out

You can go out as a larger group if you are one bubble. You just have to speak to places rather than booking online if it's set for 6.

Deadgoldfish · 01/11/2020 06:02

@Dangermouseis42now - why are you so determined that DF should have been picked up by one of his grandchildren?! Maybe he just didn’t want to, maybe it wasn’t anywhere on the route, or maybe he wants to socially distance from the people in his bubble - which is possible sitting at a table but not in car

lovelemoncurd · 01/11/2020 06:39

Why did you arrive in 4 cars. Seems an odd thing to do!

JacobReesMogadishu · 01/11/2020 06:53

People lie. There was an article in the paper the other week about a group of blokes who assured restaurant staff they were all one bubble. Restaurant staff didn’t believe them and covertly called the police and it turned out they were All different households and they got fined.