To think DH has to self isolate?

[RainbowsAndFrogs]

DH worked with someone on monday.
On Tuesday that person had a cough and got a test.
Today they got results and are positive for coronavirus.
As husband was in contact on Monday he should now have to self isolate for 14 days ending a week next Monday, is that correct?
He seems to think because he hasn't been contacted by test and trace, that he doesn't have to,
He has ordered a test (I know you're not supposed to but he won't listen) and said he will isolate but if test comes back negative he will go to work. I thought you still had to isolate for 14 days even if you have a negative test?

YABU - He doesn't need to self isolate
YANBU- he needs to self isolate for 14 days

He doesn’t need to isolate officially.

@MJMG2015 OP hasn’t said if it was an enclosed space. They could of had multiple windows and doors open.

@HaudYerWheeshtBawbag

Gov advised to only self isolate if you’ve got symptoms.

That is not correct. A confirmed contact of someone who has tested positive has to isolate for 14. My son is currently isolating as a teacher of his has tested positive!

He has to isolate now he has ordered a test because he would have lied and said he had symptoms.

If he comes back negative and subsequently develops symptoms he might have trouble trying to order another one.

If he hasn’t been contacted by T&T as a close contact then legally he doesn’t have to isolate as he isn’t in a household or support bubble with this person.

And yes, he may develop symptoms at any point in the next 14 days, in which case he should try and commence the process again.

He’s fine doing what he’s doing.

If he comes back negative and subsequently develops symptoms he might have trouble trying to order another one.

The system for test booking really isn’t that sophisticated.

I was in close contact with a colleague who tested positive. Track & Trace contacted me to tell me to self isolate when I only had 4 days left to go!!! Thankfully my colleague had contacted me straight away.

Calling on day 10 seemed pretty pointless as they didn’t know that I already knew about my colleague and the advice they gave would have been more relevant in the first week 🙄 They were so unorganised on the call too, none of the relevant information to hand.

Just because he hasn’t been contacted yet doesn’t mean he won’t be as they’re not very fast or organised!

@Theimpossiblegirl

Unless every single interaction is registered with Test and Trace, it cannot be the only thing to decide whether one needs to isolate or not. People need the common sense to know if they are in contact with someone who develops symptoms within 48 hours of contact, they need to isolate.

It seem to me that people are desperately trying to avoid isolating but this is exactly why the virus is spreading. People need to take some responsibility.

You can come and tell the 100 NMW staff at my place that they should do the right thing and take 2 weeks unpaid leave this close to Christmas, even though they won't be entitled to SSP, or the government £500 because they aren't handing out any money for 'doing the right thing'.

Test and Trace relies on one thing - people telling the truth about who they have been in contact with. It was doomed from the start.

@Theimpossiblegirl btw I agree T&T should not be the only route to officially self isolating after being in contact with a positive case outside of your household. What can we do to get the govt. to see this?

@Theimpossiblegirl

Unless every single interaction is registered with Test and Trace, it cannot be the only thing to decide whether one needs to isolate or not. People need the common sense to know if they are in contact with someone who develops symptoms within 48 hours of contact, they need to isolate.

It seem to me that people are desperately trying to avoid isolating but this is exactly why the virus is spreading. People need to take some responsibility.

People can't afford to keep taking two weeks off work with no pay

When DD tested positive, they didn't contact us for another 3 days to do contact tracing and then slowly contacted people over the next 2 days. Meanwhile, they phoned us 4 times a day every day and read out the same "speech" to us and asked leading questions. We had already let people know so they could isolate in anticipation but T&T were very slow. Plus, the initial phone call was from a woman who spoke nearly no English and couldn't understand what I was saying, incorrectly recorded our names and ds's date of birth. It took over an hour to record 4 contacts and 2 of them were wrong and needed rectifying after the fact.

He only needs to isolate if contacted by track and trace.

My best mate works for a care company doing domiciliary (house to house) care. 10 days ago she was in close contact with someone who then tested positive, also a carer so tests at work weekly. Positive test came back days after close contact (she cut friends hair).

Friend phoned her work and explained situation, sent a photo of positive test result letter. Because the test was privately done by an employer, apparently t and t don't get involved. Friend fully expected to be told to self isolate. Friend told if she didn't come to work she would end up on a disciplinary.

This is why it is spreading, and why the elderly and vulnerable are being exposed. Because people either aren't using their common sense, or when they are using it and trying to self isolate risk losing their jobs.

I've literally started a thread where a friend has done the same. Isolation for 14 days is expected even if a negative test result comes back.

Officially, no. Although if he had the app it would probably be pinging telling him to isolate. The system and the guidance is a crock of shit.

@MintCassis

I was in close contact with a colleague who tested positive. Track & Trace contacted me to tell me to self isolate when I only had 4 days left to go!!! Thankfully my colleague had contacted me straight away.

Calling on day 10 seemed pretty pointless as they didn’t know that I already knew about my colleague and the advice they gave would have been more relevant in the first week 🙄 They were so unorganised on the call too, none of the relevant information to hand.

Just because he hasn’t been contacted yet doesn’t mean he won’t be as they’re not very fast or organised!

Exactly!

Relying on T&T when it's in this much of a mess is going to cost lives. People can do the sensible thing without waiting for them to call.

Yep he has the app and it has pinged this evening telling him to isolate for the next 12 days

So now he's 'been told' he's going to isolate

@RainbowsAndFrogs

Yep he has the app and it has pinged this evening telling him to isolate for the next 12 days

So now he's 'been told' he's going to isolate

The pings from the app are not the same as T&T either. Isolating after an app alert is voluntary and does not entitle him to any government financial support. It's great he can afford to do this as a precaution.

That is not correct. A confirmed contact of someone who has tested positive has to isolate for 14. My son is currently isolating as a teacher of his has tested positive!

This is correct, as per the gov guidance.

Schools have their own policies and procedures in place unless track and trace advise otherwise.

Schools are sending children home as that’s their policy, not that it’s the gov guidance/law, there is a big difference between the two.

However we are discussing a school child, we are discussing an adult in the working environment whose personal opinion is that he has to SI, when he does not, with the current guidance in place.

rainbows Just a heads up his work may not pay him, I know in my company they would not pay in this circumstances or he may get paid but only SSP

Also the current guidance is 14 days for those who have been in direct close contact not 12...

Yeah I think he will have to see what work say.

It only says 12 says because his last contact was 2 days ago so he's already done 2 of the 14

I love that someone posted the actual advice from the gov site and people still argue and disagree (and make their own rules up)

People can't afford to keep taking two weeks off work with no pay.
I know, it's an awful situation. But can we really afford for people to not isolate when they've been exposed to the virus? This is why there are so many cases.

I keep reading on here different guidance, I work in a school & I am currently isolating for 14 days because a child in my bubble has tested positive, I am careful as much as I can be at work and try not to touch or go too close to the children. I have been told that I only need to get tested if I show symptoms and even if I get tested and it’s negative then I would still need to isolate as symptoms could still start to show later on during isolation. I don’t understand why this is not the case for everybody?

YANBU. Track & trace are in most areas not terrible efficient about contacting people, and the expectation is that you should self-isolate if you know that you've been exposed, even if you get a negative test, because the infection could take some days to develop.

The only question is whether the level of contact is sufficient to justify self-isolating. Walking past each other a few times wouldn't be a big danger as such, so long as they didn't stop to chat; but being in the same room for 8 hours would carry some risk, especially if the windows were closed. 20 feet is obviously considerably more than 6 feet, so it's not an enormous risk, but still, 8 hours is quite a long time - better safe than sorry IMO.