To be sick of people from Southern England blaming everyone in Northern England for the Tory government?

[Purpledaisychain]

When loads of people from Southern England voted Tory too?

When you look at the election map, it shows that there are more blue areas in the South than up North. But the way some people carry on at the minute, you'd think that the South was all red.

Maybe, l dunno. Why should l have a raft of evidence? I’m not a statistician or researcher. I have read of it numerous times though.

Info here
1st and second page

assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/474228/BIS-15-89-the-effect-of-higher-education-on-attitudes.pdf

And here.

www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/politics/what-lies-behind-the-uks-new-political-map-education-education-education

I could easily find more. There is a link between level of education and more liberal values.

And it was one of the defining factors in the Brexit vote.

*By wealthy I mean households with £1 million or more, they are not the teachers, the lecturers, they are the property developers, the bankers, the lawyers, that polarised division exists and it is disingenuous or naive to suggest it doesn't.

My family fall into three of the above categories your disparaging, neither of us have ever voter Tory. This isn't just about us being all benevolent or caring about those poor downtrodden poor people (sarcasm alert). We do care about poorer people, but we also use state schools, the NHS, drive on public roads, would call the police if we needed to etc. We also care about ourselves, this is why I would never vote Tory. Higher taxes for our own household would benefit us because we use all the above and I would rather not have homeless people lining the city centres or people needing food banks.

I think the recent 'eat out to help out' and free school meals is the perfect example of Tory thinking. They'll sub me £10 each so I can take my children out somewhere nice for lunch but they won't help feed poor children, who might have very little else, in the school holidays.

Sorry, loads of typos.

This thread is showing up a horribly didivded nation😕

When cafes started offering to provide meals l felt l was living in the old U.K. It made me feel we weren’t a nation at odds with each other and hating each other. It felt like the fist time in ages that the country was pulling together. It was like a shaft of sunlight in these dark days.

I hope Marcus Rashford carries on being a thorn in Boris’s side. He is a ray of hope. ⛅️🌤

There's only one person to blame for the current Tory government. That's Jeremy Corbyn.

Yes

@blueangel19
I'll just post this again. I'd like your thoughts.

Right so nobody who chose to vote Tory, out of all the other choices they could have made, is in any way responsible for the fact we have a Tory government?

If you want to get the Tories out get electable people from other parties.

Btw some high earners pay 45 % tax and do not use the NHS or Private schools so do you think is fair they pay more when not getting back much from it. It is already quite high. I doubt this people are keen on voting for parties that want to tax them further.

Yes I do think its fair. We all benefit from a well educated healthy population this is even leaving aside the fairness of poor people getting downgraded opportunity for their children.

Actually, I suppose rich people with dumb children don't benefit from poor children being well educated because they will out compete their children. Although, we will then all suffer if poor quality rich people end up doing important jobs, like running the country.

KenDodd, 'disparaging' or is it more that your family and friends buck the trend? As blueangel19 points out they are the people that do send there children to private school, they do use private health care, they don't want to be taxed more. There is no way Corbyn was ever going to win them over! It could certainly change in the future as the pattern of home ownership changes and we all know it's not worth voting Tory if you're not a home owner!