I don't want shit food from the US

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So word has it BJ is waiting to see who wins US election. Trump = no deal with EU. Biden = half arsed attempt at EU deal.
I think Trump might win because too many people are so gullible and brainwashed.
So how can we avoid eating crap food from the US? Thus far EU standards have protected us from dangerous additives, excessive phalates in packaging, the list is long.

What do you disagree with?

Does anyone seriously believe it will be on the packaging? That's very naïve.

It’s pretty simple you buy meat from local butchers, who have generally higher welfare standards, which is why they charge higher prices, also less of an impact on the environment, or you don’t eat meat, we don’t need meat to survive. A lot of the meat that is imported is poorly slaughtered and raised in horrific conditions that should be against the law anyway but because there’s a demand for cheap meat, the suffering continues to flourish.

I agree 100%, I don't want shit food from the US, and I don't want shit standards to become the norm for food produced in the UK
The whole thing is dreadful, sodding Brexit is going to ruin everything. I'm so furious.

I will be cooking from scratch and trying to only by local farm produce. What an expensive annoying awful thing to happen.

Thanks for nothing, Boris and the brexit brigade.

British food is for the most part the laughing stock of the civilised world. American food is nicer and cheaper (admittedly reflected in their obesity levels)

Is it? Is it really? You are deluded.

I don’t think country of origin labels would be scrapped. Mainly because Indian and Chinese chicken (for export) isn’t chlorinated but is still far, far cheaper than US meat even with a mark up.

American food is nicer and cheaper
Wonder why it's cheaper?

One of the things about lower food standards is that they are not always detectable in the way foods taste.
Does chlorinated chicken or hormone-injected beef taste bad?
Did people eating beef infected with BSE think it tasted odd?

The UK's climate is not conducive to growing what people might consider "nice" food. Imported fruit and veg is not always "nice" either. It will be even less so after a stint in the Farage Garage in Kent...

As I wrote, even if we consider that it might be possible to label Welsh lamb, what percentage of the population, even ignoring the fact very few can afford it, can be fed with Welsh lamb?

even Americans are much more informed about the origin of their meat then you seem to believe

Don't spoil it, BlueMountain5 - on MN, the US is supposed to be a land of grasping, unprincipled, Trump-obsessed capitalists and arm-a-toddler fanatics whose only aim is to stiff everyone else while peddling food with enough chemicals to interest Porton Down

Loving the reference to Walmart though. It'll perhaps disappoint some that even they sell organic food, but it's hardly known as a bastion of healthful living and nor is it the only option

Fun to take a wander down the cereal and candy aisles though, and admire the dayglo colours from all those additives

Those that are willing and able to will buy local

But what about the rest of society?
What if they don’t have the financial means to pay more for local home grown produce?

Mainly because Indian and Chinese chicken (for export) isn’t chlorinated but is still far, far cheaper than US meat even with a mark up.
Does the UK have trade deals to import those?
Is it planning to negotiate one?
The country the gvmt has repeatedly stated it will make a trade deal with is the US: the country aware that its exports are harmed by labelling and food standards.

I buy all my meat from a local specialist farm shop and will stick to it. However, I don't know what all the fuss is about food from the USA - I have always had lovely steaks when over there. After all, can it be any worse than the cheap, stringy chicken used by KFC and the 'mince' used by Macdonalds?

Australia have a free trade deal with the US - how come this Sydney based store sells 'Tasmanian smoked salmon slices' (for example) - with 'Product of Australia' plus kangaroo logo quite clearly shown?

www.woolworths.com.au/shop/productdetails/29637/tassal-premium-tasmanian-smoked-salmon-slices

@Rummikub

Those that are willing and able to will buy local

But what about the rest of society?
What if they don’t have the financial means to pay more for local home grown produce?

People don’t care. It’s read a label, but whole foods.

Thanks PP for the reminder about Walmart. they happen to own Asda in the UK. So will be interesting to see how it will work. Probably easiest for that company.

No one hates the US (shocked and disappointed by a fabulous experiment gone wrong), but hate? No.

I got on board with Brexit because that was what was voted for. I bought my kids British owned phones, I tried to be the most optimistic, but when we look at trade, it appears as though we’re going to be the European version of Puerto Rico. Membership with no benefits. Or worse yet Jamaica (selling everything to the Chinese and US) desperate to be a part of the US when the US don’t want them, they’ve taken everything valuable already.

[quote Clavinova]Australia have a free trade deal with the US - how come this Sydney based store sells 'Tasmanian smoked salmon slices' (for example) - with 'Product of Australia' plus kangaroo logo quite clearly shown?

www.woolworths.com.au/shop/productdetails/29637/tassal-premium-tasmanian-smoked-salmon-slices[/quote]
Because it’s not the same deal that our fantastic, talented negotiators are likely to get for us. Not sure the US use the same templates for each deal.

But you’re right it won’t be as bad as we think it will be.

I hope enough people do care.

@Faultymain5Asda is now British owned. Bought very recently.

@Rummikub

People!! Please realise that IT’S NOT JUST MEAT! It’s all food produce. INCLUDING FRUIT & VEG. Everything will be affected. American standards are very poor and actually frightening.

This is going to cause long term problems for health.
It will decimate our farmers.
We already killed off manufacturing
Why the hell do we want to do the dave with our farmers.

If we don’t manufacture or grow anything then we are at the mercy of America.

This. Plus, our own farmers, though miles better, are not above using chemicals and methods people wouldn't like, if they knew. Vegans can, with excellent intentions, cause destruction of the rainforest. Really, really, there just is not a simple easy way to buy food which is ethical. To my astonishment, one vox pop woman who had watched a programme on appalling factory farmed chicken said she didn't care how much cruelty was involved, all she wants is cheap food. Further questioned, she said she was looking forward to American food, because it would be even cheaper.

@Jaxhog

How many of the posters here who can afford to buy more expensive meat from local producers voted Conservative?

Don't blame Conservative voters - blame the Brexiteers. They got us into this mess.

Same thing I thought

Hopefully it won’t be as bad
But think everyone needs to be vigilant. And express their concerns.

[quote Clavinova]Australia have a free trade deal with the US - how come this Sydney based store sells 'Tasmanian smoked salmon slices' (for example) - with 'Product of Australia' plus kangaroo logo quite clearly shown?

www.woolworths.com.au/shop/productdetails/29637/tassal-premium-tasmanian-smoked-salmon-slices[/quote]
Because it isn’t as big or profitable a market for US farmers as the UK could be. US negotiaters will want us to pay the same high prices we’re used to for lower quality.

@Baaaahhhhh

British food is for the most part the laughing stock of the civilised world. American food is nicer and cheaper (admittedly reflected in their obesity levels)

Is it? Is it really? You are deluded.

True if you have no concern for animal welfare, like highly processed corn syrup, don't care about the pesticides they use and have no taste. Knock yourself out.

Consumers will have to take more responsibility for what they buy and eat. If you want to avoid eating poor quality food, you will need to buy from local producers, cook more yourself, eat less processed foods (less ingredients means less chance of nasties) and eat at restaurants that are transparent about their food suppliers. Those of us on allergy diets have been doing this for years.

One way they will attempt to subvert the labelling rules, is to mark it as packaged in the UK/EU. We will have to learn to look for packaging that denotes it as British or a food with protected characteristics i.e feta as opposed to white cheese etc.

@justanotherneighinparadise

Wouldn’t it be wonderful if this forced people to shop locally again!!

Wouldn't it be lovely if everyone could afford to?

Saying just buy British is rather simplistic - British farmers will be in competition with US produce being farmed to lower standards, therefore at a lower cost...
How long do you imagine "British standards" will remain higher than US ones?

(Pretty much the entire point of Brexit is to be able to lower British standards because we will no longer be bound to match EU standards. This therefore reduces costs to business.

Of course these reduced standards will mean greater risks to consumers and worse working conditions for employees.....)

@Rummikub

I hope enough people do care.

@Faultymain5Asda is now British owned. Bought very recently.

Do you know how recent this is, as I’ve just been on companies house and they have Walmart inc as the ultimate beneficiary. Had to go through about 9 companies but still says Walmart.

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