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I don't want shit food from the US

563 replies

flashbac · 25/10/2020 10:10

So word has it BJ is waiting to see who wins US election. Trump = no deal with EU. Biden = half arsed attempt at EU deal.
I think Trump might win because too many people are so gullible and brainwashed.
So how can we avoid eating crap food from the US? Thus far EU standards have protected us from dangerous additives, excessive phalates in packaging, the list is long.

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Clavinova · 25/10/2020 14:22

Apparently both sides have been tossing deal killers into the pot and Biden seems quite lukewarm about the whole thing.

Neither are likely to be President for more than 4 years - both are too old.

Lemonsyellow · 25/10/2020 14:23

@Hylyma1234

This isn’t just about meat. It’s about fruit and vegetables too.

CHIRIBAYA · 25/10/2020 14:24

It's creeping in already. I noticed it the other day in the cereal aisle, some revolting looking product called Marshmallow Mateys - a cheerio type offering with coloured marshmallows in it at 3 quid a box. It is absolutely loaded with sugar (41%) and 3 additives recognised by the Food Standards Agency linked with hyperactivity in children (you can guess who will end up eating it). American food will be introduced gradually and quietly in the hope that consumers will fail to take notice or generally be too passive to do anything about it. As for labelling, even if the origin is not declared, some things are a dead giveaway, for example, references to fructose corn syrup. Consumers need to educate themselves very quickly if they want to avoid eating such 'food' and frankly children need protecting from this rubbish unless we want to end up with the same obesity problems they have in the States.

Georgeoftheinternet · 25/10/2020 14:30

I’ve been buying raw milk and butter for years. Do the same:
Chlorinated chicken - don’t care

Georgeoftheinternet · 25/10/2020 14:31

@CHIRIBAYA lol omg you lost me at a “break fast food” likened to Cheerios. That stuff is dead food. Give your child a couple of eggs ffs/

Lemonsyellow · 25/10/2020 14:35

[quote Georgeoftheinternet]@CHIRIBAYA lol omg you lost me at a “break fast food” likened to Cheerios. That stuff is dead food. Give your child a couple of eggs ffs/[/quote]
Where does Chiribaya say anything about breakfast food or that she was buying it?

MissConductUS · 25/10/2020 14:35

@Clavinova

Apparently both sides have been tossing deal killers into the pot and Biden seems quite lukewarm about the whole thing.

Neither are likely to be President for more than 4 years - both are too old.

I was under the impression from PP that a no deal brexit was going to create a crisis in 2021. If that's not the case let's worry about it all in 2024.
InFlagranteDerelicto · 25/10/2020 14:38

Uk Food standards are higher than US food standards

Yes, because we're still operating on EU standards. I don't know why this is so hard to understand.

Apparently last year the UK rate of salmonella contamination in retail chicken was approximately 3.5%. In the USA it was approximately 25%. This is why they use chlorine to wash them after slaughter. Rates of bacterial & faecal contamination for other meats are apparently similarly high. This is also why they use typically use more antibiotics - some may say they only use them when the animals are sick... but the animals are very often sick due to being kept in appalling conditions & fed unnatural food designed to promote growth rather than health.

Hylyma1234 · 25/10/2020 14:39

@Lemonsyellow

This isn’t just about meat. It’s about fruit and vegetables too.

Again, it depends where you choose to source your fruit and vegetables from. If you buy cheap you will get low quality goods because no producer can produce goods at bare minimum without covering their costs and making a marginal profit.

Lemonsyellow · 25/10/2020 14:41

How are you going to choose where to source your fruit and veg from? Most people won’t have that choice, because they won’t know where it comes from - due to the lack of labelling.

Clavinova · 25/10/2020 14:41

MissConductUS
I was under the impression from PP that a no deal brexit was going to create a crisis in 2021. If that's not the case let's worry about it all in 2024.

I think it's odds-on we will get a deal with the EU.

AuldAlliance · 25/10/2020 14:42

Neither are likely to be President for more than 4 years - both are too old.
Phew. No need to fret, then.

LockdownLil · 25/10/2020 14:42

they can't make us do away with branding.

I am really shocked and upset at how little posters seem to know on this thread. We won't be able to label our food. Putting a union jack on it or calling it Smith's Local Beef COUNTS AS LABELLING and there will be lawsuits and firms won't be allowed to do it. Supermarkets will stock the cheapest food which will come from the US after Brexit as the European food markets will no longer be open to us in the same way. So standards will go down. Individual consumers will be able to do nothing about it and no choice will be possible especially if you are on a low income. It's really happening, people.

The lack of proper press in this country has driven us over a cliff. This is vital for us all to understand and we're like a bunch of fucking idiot lemmings unable to act in our own best interests.

Skysblue · 25/10/2020 14:44

Ugh it’s going tobe a problem but it already is. I prefer not to buy food from China (I know too much about their quality control!) and my supermarket seems to have switched most of their nuts to from China instead of from Germany/America/Vietnam. But a huge number of their products now just say “Product of more than one country.” Which tells me nothing.

Still all we can do is read the labels and not buy it unless you know where its from.

Rummikub · 25/10/2020 14:44

^^ yup

queenofarles · 25/10/2020 14:45

Can’t we do what the Koreans did back in 2008? Mass protests till the US agree to British terms.

Rummikub · 25/10/2020 14:46

I read labels very carefully
Ingredients
And country of origin
It takes me awhile to shop
If the information is hidden through a code or not included at all then Informed consumer choice is impossible.
This is the problem there will be no choice left.
Farming decimated.
Why do we want this to happen??

AuldAlliance · 25/10/2020 14:48

Mass protests till the US agree to British terms.
Mass protests in the UK? They don't even make a difference to UK policy, never mind US policy...

silentpool · 25/10/2020 14:50

And what about the food already coming in? Brazilian chicken...for example...

www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/jul/03/brazil-one-million-salmonella-infected-chickens-uk

Or closer to home: www.thebureauinvestigates.com/stories/2020-04-07/half-of-uk-chickens-produced-by-us-agribusiness

Rummikub · 25/10/2020 14:55

Which is why country of origin labelling is important

Rummikub · 25/10/2020 14:57

Question:

Brazilian/Peruvian chicken that is currently imported is subject to the food standards that are in place now?

Lemonsyellow · 25/10/2020 14:57

@Skysblue

Ugh it’s going tobe a problem but it already is. I prefer not to buy food from China (I know too much about their quality control!) and my supermarket seems to have switched most of their nuts to from China instead of from Germany/America/Vietnam. But a huge number of their products now just say “Product of more than one country.” Which tells me nothing.

Still all we can do is read the labels and not buy it unless you know where its from.

So you’re planning on buying no food, then? Or you’re going to grow your own? Because otherwise you won’t know where it’s from.
KarmaNoMore · 25/10/2020 14:58

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slipperywhensparticus · 25/10/2020 15:00

They cannot just change our laws without an act of Parliament right?

Rummikub · 25/10/2020 15:02

Aren’t the govt refusing to put the current food standards into law?