To think that Mark Drakeford is a power mad dictator?

[LittleLapwing]

Half the shops covered in plastic. Can’t buy clothes, duvets, books, DVDs, tins but not tin openers.
All the Halloween and bonfire night stuff that’s just been stocked is behind a cordon. Presumably now destined for landfill.

Autumn half term after a shitty year and I can’t even do a few seasonal treats for the kids.

AIBU to think that Mark Drakeford is a power mad dictator, and that his ridiculous game of Covid oneupmanship with Nicola and Boris needs to stop!?

Our two local Argos shops closed down during Covid and never reopened, and Argos charges you for delivery online. I pay £8 a month for Prime and Amazon deliver next day 95% of the time. Of course I'm going to use them and not Argos.

Our local Argos (in Sainsbury's) is doing click and collect according to my local FB page.

Neither option is open to me. So yeah, for next day when you really need something, Amazon IS pretty much the only option for too many people now. Entirely thanks to Mark Drakeford and the Senedd

This is crap, it really is. Off the top of my head

John Lewis (yes may be too expensive)
Robert Dyas
Wayfair

All do next day delivery.

I would always get my —non— essentials at the supermarket or Wilkinson’s

Who at least employ local people and put money back into the local economy of course. I know Wilco is struggling at the moment. I wouldn't blame them unfortunately if in the next round of closures hope this doesn't lead to them pulling out of Wales. It's a toxic environment for all businesses except Amazon.

Honestly, there is so much shit going on about this. Last night BBC Wales said that this decision was causing uncertainty (true) and FEAR (hyperbole).

I don't agree with Drakeford on this decision, but the reaction has been ridiculous and way over the top.

@pinkearedcow

Neither option is open to me. So yeah, for next day when you really need something, Amazon IS pretty much the only option for too many people now. Entirely thanks to Mark Drakeford and the Senedd

This is crap, it really is. Off the top of my head

John Lewis (yes may be too expensive)
Robert Dyas
Wayfair

All do next day delivery.

All those are generally more expensive for a lot of products and charge extra for next day delivery. There aren't many places as cheap and reliable as Amazon. Hence why Jeff Bezos runs the world.

Well I have done a price comparison...genuine question ImAllOut does Amazon not charge for next day delivery? I thought it did?

Unless you have a Prime account, that is.

I haven't done a price comparison!

Robert Dyas seems to have a wide price range and has some reductions, a few pans for under 20 squid, if anyone in Wales is looking for a new one and doesn't want to use Amazon.

www.robertdyas.co.uk/catalogsearch/result/?q=cookware

Yeah if you have Prime I meant sorry, so I pay £8 a month for mine because I watch a lot of Prime TV/films, and order at least 10 things a month from there so delivery cost is easily absorbed.

@ImAllOut

Our two local Argos shops closed down during Covid and never reopened, and Argos charges you for delivery online. I pay £8 a month for Prime and Amazon deliver next day 95% of the time. Of course I'm going to use them and not Argos.

Mine closed down during covid (despite being allowed to remain open, as a hardware supplier) and hasn't reopened either. I would walk into my local town centre to collect items but I won't get into the car to drive 5 miles to the big Sainsburys with an in-store Argos, queue to get into Sainsburys and then again for Argos. Order from Amazon and it arrives in the next couple of days.

Robert Dyas is good but our local one was also closed during the UK-wide lockdown, even though it was allowed to be open.

I don't actually think the reaction to all of this has been over the top. It goes to the very heart of our rights (and responsibilities) and when it is ok to restrict people's rights. Lockdown on health reasons, fine. Deciding what items people can buy on offer within the same shop, not fine. Especially when there are no limits on gambling, alcohol or tobacco.

YardleyX

Argos store are open for prepaid goods as stated in the ad you just posted. I know they are open. My son and lots of his friends work at different Argos stores whilst they can only do half a day at college. If you’d like to research you’ll find they are taking on staff at the moment for deliveries, stockroom and assistants.

Again, the idea is to prevent people hanging around shops, just browsing. The supermarkets can sell you non essential items too. Just ask if you need something urgently and stop creating a problem when there isn’t one!

@ImAllOut

Yeah if you have Prime I meant sorry, so I pay £8 a month for mine because I watch a lot of Prime TV/films, and order at least 10 things a month from there so delivery cost is easily absorbed.

So Drakeford probably isn't driving that much extra custom Amazon's way as people like you with Prime accounts etc. will probably habitually order from there anyway, whilst people like me who hate Amazon and find other online sources will continue to do that if we need something during this next week and a half.

cologne4711 as has been repeatedly explained on this thread, banning alcohol would be reckless in the extreme because of the fact that some people will die or become extremely ill without it.

@ImAllOut

Yeah if you have Prime I meant sorry, so I pay £8 a month for mine because I watch a lot of Prime TV/films, and order at least 10 things a month from there so delivery cost is easily absorbed.

Anyway, I give up. Arguing the toss is a waste of time as this debate is polarised, like a lof ot the Covid debates.

Drakeford is clearly a demon from hell who wants to torture us all until midnight on November the 8th.

Soory, didn't mean to quote there!

FFS. Sorry

I’ve never even heard of Robert Dyas.

@LittleLapwing

I’ve never even heard of Robert Dyas.

Not surprised.

It's an English chain with no branches in Wales. There's one in Bristol I think.

@LittleLapwing

I’ve never even heard of Robert Dyas.

And that is why it always good to find out what else is out there before just going to Amazon, there are so many alternatives. RD is a very old company, although I think the actual shops are mostly in south east of England.

I find this incredibly sinister. Just goes to show how quickly governments can prevent people buying even essential things. MD saying they aren't essential doesn't make it so.

And that is why it always good to find out what else is out there before just going to Amazon, there are so many alternatives. RD is a very old company, although I think the actual shops are mostly in south east of England.

Love the sanctimonious tone about why I’ve never heard of RD, followed by the explanation that it’s actually based in a completely different country 🤦🏻‍♀️😂
HOW exactly should I have heard of a shop which doesn’t operate in my country and which I have therefore never come across?

Pray tell, do?

You are aware that the world does not actually revolve around the SE of England?

I’m in wales and finding all the fuss over this ridiculous. It’s 17 days ffs (even if you don’t believe that) and we had plenty of warning. I live in a low risk area and while I don’t think we should be in national lockdown I think the hysteria over a two week lockdown is too much

You are aware that the world does not actually revolve around the SE of England?

Given that I live in Wales, yeah I am aware of that. I was just staing a fact that RD mostly has shops in South East, I am not sure why you think that means I think the world revolves around there.

HOW exactly should I have heard of a shop which doesn’t operate in my country and which I have therefore never come across?

If I want to buy something online I google to find where sells it. Which is how I found Robert Dyas. Or I find new online stores by word of mouth. I'd never heard of Wayfair until I heard of it on here. How did you first hear of Amazon?

LittleLapwing, you said

So yeah, for next day when you really need something, Amazon IS pretty much the only option for too many people now. Entirely thanks to Mark Drakeford and the Senedd

I said that that is not true which it isn't.

@FelicityBob

I’m in wales and finding all the fuss over this ridiculous. It’s 17 days ffs (even if you don’t believe that) and we had plenty of warning. I live in a low risk area and while I don’t think we should be in national lockdown I think the hysteria over a two week lockdown is too much

I'm happy for you.

I however have been under lockdown regulations since the start of October so it's been a lot longer for me than just 17 days.