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To think that Mark Drakeford is a power mad dictator?

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LittleLapwing · 24/10/2020 07:37

Half the shops covered in plastic. Can’t buy clothes, duvets, books, DVDs, tins but not tin openers.
All the Halloween and bonfire night stuff that’s just been stocked is behind a cordon. Presumably now destined for landfill.

Autumn half term after a shitty year and I can’t even do a few seasonal treats for the kids.

AIBU to think that Mark Drakeford is a power mad dictator, and that his ridiculous game of Covid oneupmanship with Nicola and Boris needs to stop!?

OP posts:
Mooseflake · 24/10/2020 13:12

Also for those who are speculating that the Welsh firebreak will drag on beyond 2.5 weeks.

Mark Drakeford has stated categorically that this firebreak will end on the 9th November. He said that we shouldn't expect to see the impact of the lockdown during this time, as the time lag between infection and positive tests inevitably means that the effects will only become apparent after that time period. This is why there will be no waiting to see if the lockdown has driven cases down before deciding when it will end, and no dragging on of the lockdown indefinitely.

This is based firmly on the scientific evidence. Welsh Government have learned from the mistakes of Westminster, and are making clear evidence based policy decisions.

The fact that people don't trust MD's words because of the bullshit that Boris has been feeding us for the last 6 months speaks volumes. Wales and Scotland have got a MUCH better grip on this.

OlympicProcrastinator · 24/10/2020 13:12

Children’s clothes in this weather really ought to be a priority. We have a few foster carers locally who are concerned about these sort of rules being brought into our area. Children can turn up in the middle of the night with less than an hours notice, almost always with dirty, poorly fitting, inadequate clothing. You don’t know which age child you might have coming. It’s always the most vulnerable who suffer when rules like this are brought in.

AlternativePerspective · 24/10/2020 13:13

But if the kettle breaks you can always boil the water in a saucepan on the hob..... just saying.

EvilPea · 24/10/2020 13:14

Imagine how slow online deliveries are going to be if it’s the only way you can get things?

Mooseflake · 24/10/2020 13:14

@wanderings

Has the power-mad dictator sworn on his mother's grave that this lockdown will end when he says it will?
He announced it during his public address, and has reiterated it several times since.
user1495884620 · 24/10/2020 13:14

@multivac

It's a good job that the likes of Schindler didn't think "oh I can only save a few Jews so I won't save any of them because it's not fair on the ones I can't save"

Godwin's! Do I win?

Nope, somebody posted ages previously that Stalin and Hitler didn't start by stopping people buying kettles (or words to that effect).
EvilPea · 24/10/2020 13:15

Who has room to store all this spare stuff?!
I don’t.

I’m in england and if I knew we were going back into a full lockdown I wouldn’t assume half this stuff is “non essential”.

Tootyfilou · 24/10/2020 13:16

Everyone knew on Monday that lockdown started 6pm yesterday.
I mentioned the war because that was a time when the whole population had rationing and personal liberties removed. Here we cant buy a kettle ( insert random item of choice) in the supermarket for 14 days . Hardly Stalinist Russia is it 🙄

Funkypolar · 24/10/2020 13:16

I look forward to the “new regime” from the 9th November. Communism?

bitheby · 24/10/2020 13:17

@Tootyfilou

Everyone knew on Monday that lockdown started 6pm yesterday. I mentioned the war because that was a time when the whole population had rationing and personal liberties removed. Here we cant buy a kettle ( insert random item of choice) in the supermarket for 14 days . Hardly Stalinist Russia is it 🙄
Yeah but last time in lockdown the supermarkets weren't restricted in what they could sell. I only heard this yesterday and didn't have time to get to a shop before 6pm. We haven't had much notice.
Mooseflake · 24/10/2020 13:18

@JesusInTheCabbageVan

People seem to think there's some perfect pandemic lockdown scenario in which Absolutely Everybody Wins. Sadly, there just isn't.

If by some stroke of horrendously bad luck you found yourself at the helm (because I honestly don't think any of the people in charge are enjoying this), and implemented your Fucking Awesome Lockdown Solution TM, within minutes people would be picking it apart online, calling you a callous power-mad stupid out-of-touch fascist privileged corrupt scumbag, making hilarious puns on your name, all the rest of it.

They announced it on Monday ahead of the Friday lockdown. That announcement included that all non-essential shops would close.

If you didn't realise what that meant until 24rs ago, I'm sorry, that's not really their fault.

Sandybdnas · 24/10/2020 13:19

But during the war people had zero choice. It was happening regardless, and rationing was needed as there was a shortage of food. People were incredibly brave and it must have been hard, but here there is a rational choice (things are already on the shelves a few steps away from where people are already 'allowed' to stop. So the war references are pathetic.

JesusInTheCabbageVan · 24/10/2020 13:19

@AlternativePerspective

But if the kettle breaks you can always boil the water in a saucepan on the hob..... just saying.
Too late, we've been there. It didn't go down well. Apparently all the babies will starve and A&Es will be inundated with people with third degree burns.
Mooseflake · 24/10/2020 13:20

oops sorry JesusInTheCabbageVan I quoted your post by mistake there!!!

My post was in reference to OP
We had less than 24 hours notice of this, and I was on a 12 hour shift

No we did not have less than 24 hours notice. We had 5 days.

Funkypolar · 24/10/2020 13:21

Looking at the poll results, the majority don’t agree with what Drakeford is dictating.

Bollss · 24/10/2020 13:21

They announced it on Monday ahead of the Friday lockdown. That announcement included that all non-essential shops would close.

But that isn't saying that supermarkets couldn't sell essentials is it?

Funkypolar · 24/10/2020 13:22

Mooseflake - if it’s about stopping a virus why don’t they just close all non-essential shops forever?

JesusInTheCabbageVan · 24/10/2020 13:22

@Mooseflake thanks, I was sitting here trying to work out what I was being told off for Grin

QueenCranberry · 24/10/2020 13:24

Mark Drakeford has now stepped completely beyond his remit. The man is a total fucking idiot. This wasn't even done in the first lock down. He's now flexing his muscles just to prove the point that he's in charge. He's an out of depth unelected knob jockey.

You can imagine the conversation in Cardiff Prison...
Prisoner 1: " 'ere, mate, what you banged up for?"
Prisoner 2: "Got 15 months for buying a kettle and duvet in Azda"...

It's ridiculous.

Mooseflake · 24/10/2020 13:24

Yeah but last time in lockdown the supermarkets weren't restricted in what they could sell. I only heard this yesterday and didn't have time to get to a shop before 6pm. We haven't had much notice.

Yes they were!! See numerous posts here of people saying actually aisles of non-essentials were closed off in March too.

In fact, the Welsh Government guidance on non-essential shopping was first published on 24th March.

And... to reiterate... YOU CAN STILL GO SHOPPING! You can buy essentials from wherever you usually do, and no one is stopping you from buying a kettle, you just can't get one on the high street for two weeks.

wanderings · 24/10/2020 13:27

He announced it during his public address, and has reiterated it several times since.
Great. Let's see if he's that rare breed of politician who does what they say they will to the letter; and doesn't gaslight the public with "actually, you misheard: I said I'd review it on 9th November".

Mooseflake · 24/10/2020 13:27

@Funkypolar

Mooseflake - if it’s about stopping a virus why don’t they just close all non-essential shops forever?
By that argument why not just lock everyone in their homes forever? It would stop the virus.

The answer is because there has to be a balance, obviously.

Mooseflake · 24/10/2020 13:28

@wanderings

He announced it during his public address, and has reiterated it several times since. Great. Let's see if he's that rare breed of politician who does what they say they will to the letter; and doesn't gaslight the public with "actually, you misheard: I said I'd review it on 9th November".
Yes - let's see.

I'll expect you to come on here and let us know what you think when he proves true to his word.

He isn't Boris.

Stellaroses · 24/10/2020 13:29

I'm in Wales. I don't necessarily think the new lockdown is a good idea personally. However, I really don't understand why people are sooooo outraged about stationary and clothes? It will end on the 9th... People who happen to be in the dire situation of, say, really desperately needing shoes for their child (why didn't you get some before, but anyway..) can shop online... And if they can't (and honestly I can't think why anyone can't at least get someone else to do that for them) can definitely make do for 17 days. It's not that big a deal.

MaxNormal · 24/10/2020 13:30

By that argument why not just lock everyone in their homes forever?

Or why not just shoot everyone and be done with it? Dead people can't spread viruses. Look at all the selfish bastards, daring to be alive, filthy disease vectors that they are.
And as the deaths wouldn't have covid, they won't count as sad.