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This MP should be sacked

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acerred · 24/10/2020 00:48

Disgusting comments. He should be sacked.

This MP should be sacked
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rainyoutside · 24/10/2020 09:29

It is in my school, and people do know. Not the other kids thanks to fingerprint technology but the teachers know and the parents know they know.

timeforanewstart · 24/10/2020 09:31

@Hopoindown31 maybe if the oppostion wasn't so poor we wouldn't have a tory party
People can criticise but should be looking at the parties they support maybe and how they failed , also one mana belief won't be that of a whole party or their supporters
You can vote for a party but not agree on everything they do

timeforanewstart · 24/10/2020 09:33

@rainyoutside well the teachers knowing isn't really a problem as they shouldn't be discussing
In my sons school the kids know because they tell each other they don't seem to mind who knows which is how it should be

toomanypillows · 24/10/2020 09:34

@rainyoutside I totally get what you're saying and you're right of course. Some people do feel stigmatised for being on FSM.
However, he is losing lots of support locally and has done for a while. Local fb pages etc. are giving him a hard time, when before there was much more support. Mansfield voted tory (after 40 yrs of Labour) because they'd lost faith in the Labour MP (Alan Meale) and because of Brexit (Bradley was elected in 2017)

Mansfield is overwhelmingly "leave" and this had governed local politics and discussions for the last 5 years. So Bradley coasted in on that agenda.

People are starting to feel the effects now of having a staunch, super right wing MP in a disadvantaged constituency and I just hope the tide will turn. The opposition parties will need to start considering a their approach now, and get some momentum going to win back the supporters they lost, because Bradley will keep shooting himself in the foot and people will lose interest in him.

There's not much nuance round here and he's really done very little for his constituents apart from say Mansfield in the commons a few times and publish lots of photos and videos of himself.

C8H10N4O2 · 24/10/2020 09:37

Lets not forget the unemployed should have vasectomies unemployed should have vasectomies from his days hob knobbing with that other toten of humanity, IDS.

rainyoutside · 24/10/2020 09:38

You misunderstand me time

It’s a problem for that family. How can we say it’s not a problem? It is for them. So it’s a problem.

I’m not familiar with the area pillows and I take your word for it. I do think the school was unwise, tbh. But generally speaking outside of MN/Twitter I think a lot of people will hold the ‘they are your kids, you feed them’ attitudes.

C8H10N4O2 · 24/10/2020 09:40

There's not much nuance round here and he's really done very little for his constituents apart from say Mansfield in the commons a few times and publish lots of photos and videos of himself.

For MPs in the former red wall that makes sense. He can use the job to make connections and get publicity to feather his future nest or he can knuckle down, work hard for the constituents and use the five years to build local support.

Its a lot easier to do the former.

CheshireSplat · 24/10/2020 09:42

*They’re all getting 4.1% pay rise to bring their salary up to £84000but they can’t feed vulnerable children.

Just remember they are not "getting" a 4.1% pay rise, these people voted for their own pay rise. Remember that next time you vote.*

Appreciate this is derailing the thread a little but this is important. MPs do not vote for their own pay rises. Salaries are independently assessed and there is no choice about whether or not to accept them. Some are choosing to give the payrise to charity. Ministers' salaries are decided by the govenrment and haven't increased since 2010. IPSA was implemented after the expenses scandal so there wasn't this conflict.

This is really important. Getting the facts wrong doesn't help the moral argument at all and sows further distrust in politicians when many of them are decent.

I'm totally with those saying that why are people surprise that Tory MPs are acting this way. Reading the bullying of those with working class and northern accents at places like Durham Uni shows that the ruling classes will be like this for generations to come. We need more people in parliament with experience outside private school, top uni, then job in politics or finance and who know what life is actually like for many people in this country.

Christmasfairy2020 · 24/10/2020 09:45

To be honest it can fund drugs and drink and fags.

15 pounds per week 3 or 4 kids. So the money they have for food is for booze and fags where as before they may have been unable to buy it

Christmasfairy2020 · 24/10/2020 09:45

I know our school didnt give money they gave food parcels

StandWitch · 24/10/2020 09:49

However, he is losing lots of support locally and has done for a while.

he won won of the largest swings to the Tories in history less than a year ago.

Frazzled2207 · 24/10/2020 09:50

He’s detestable.

I am staggered that Mansfield voted for him...twice! That said a pp on another thread suggested that many people in Mansfield think like he does.
Let’s hope they see sense by the next election.

rainyoutside · 24/10/2020 09:51

The problem is frazzled your version of sense may not tally with theirs.

cdtaylornats · 24/10/2020 09:52

And we see the ignorance of the online crowd.

The reason they didn't extend school meals into the holidays. £600 million has been already allocated to local councils to target poor families over the holidays.

MayYouLiveInInterestingTimes · 24/10/2020 09:52

Food parcels sounds like a better idea tbh. Or some sort of communal soup kitchen with good planning and PR. The food needs to be accessible by the kids themselves.

Hopoindown31 · 24/10/2020 09:53

@Hopoindown31 maybe if the oppostion wasn't so poor we wouldn't have a tory party
People can criticise but should be looking at the parties they support maybe and how they failed , also one mana belief won't be that of a whole party or their supporters
You can vote for a party but not agree on everything they do

That is a very weak defense tbh. No-one made anyone vote Tory. No guns were held against heads. You can only vote for a party, you can't vote against one, despite how you try and rationalise it.

This isn't one man's belief. The vast majority of Tory MPs showed they believe it too through their words and actions! It is not as if the Tory party don't have form in these regions.

I say, you get what you deserve. People voted and they will repeat the rewards of that vote - a bunch of inexperienced, careerists, who will screw over their constituents in the hopes of advancement and making it on to the lists for a safer seat next time.

Unsure33 · 24/10/2020 09:56

The sad thing is that I have seen a huge amount of threads on here where women do get themselves pregnant by feckless unfaithful lazy Cocklodgers as you all like to call them , and then suddenly they discover their true natures and you all cry LTB and get on to UC.

And yet when people point out men are not facing up to their responsibilities and fathering lots of children by different mothers you all shout foul play .

Also I did see on here comments about people selling vouchers .

Surely you should stop being hypocritical and think of a system where children in poor families receive the monies they deserve . Perhaps a percentage of all benefits should be food vouchers ?

And I agree I am afraid that anyone can read the tweets and make up their own minds and that schools should not get involved. Leave that to the voters.

LakieLady · 24/10/2020 09:59

@rainyoutside, I agree with you about debt. I've worked with families crippled by it.

But by doing away with community care grants and crisis loans, and freezing benefits, the Tories made that more, not less, likely to happen. They throw vulnerable, low income families under the bus and then blame them for getting run over.

Incidentally, we had a leaflet from Provident among our junk mail the other day. Their loans are at an interest rate of 535% APR. That 535% is not a typo!

Hopoindown31 · 24/10/2020 10:00

And we see the ignorance of the online crowd.

The reason they didn't extend school meals into the holidays. £600 million has been already allocated to local councils to target poor families over the holidays.

Not ignorance at all, that funding (not enough, especially for areas of real deprivation) could have been used for other support services, but a portion of it is now having to be diverted to FSMs.

Some of use don't take the weasel words of Tory MPs at face value. The reality is that COVID is now disproportionately impacting the North and Midlands and so a Tory government just doesn't feel it needs to act. Just look at the support for higher tier restrictions. The treasury only pipes up with significant extra cash when London goes into Tier 2. Areas going into Tier 3 are forced into 'negotiations' with government where they effectively have to beg for support and are lowballed and strongarmed into accepting whatever is offered.

Unsure33 · 24/10/2020 10:01

Well you can judge the Tory party on this one thing if you want but their furlough scheme has saved 11 jobs just in our company . So 11 people who won’t be on the breadline of the benefits system because of a pandemic . Multiply that over thousands of small companies and of course they can’t save every job but they have done a lot more thatn I think people thought they would .

rainyoutside · 24/10/2020 10:01

The way out of poverty isn’t an increase of crisis loans or increase of benefits, though. That’s the brutal truth. And it stinks.

LakieLady · 24/10/2020 10:02

women do get themselves pregnant by feckless unfaithful lazy Cocklodgers

Women have never got themselves pregnant. It always requires the input of a man. A man who could easily stick a condom on his knob if he wasn't prepared to support any child born as a result of his need for a shag.

dadshere · 24/10/2020 10:02

Like almost all tories he is a selfish scum bag. Privately educated Ben's political philosophy is;
"that if you're willing to do the right thing and work hard, you should be rewarded."
Yes, it is easy to 'work hard' and 'do the right thing' when your wealthy parents are able to send you to private school, let you doss around at Uni (he dropped out of his first degree) then pay for you to go and have another crack.

Yet the morons in this country will keep voting for SH**houses like him who don't give a flying Feck about them because the media tells them to.

Unsure33 · 24/10/2020 10:04

@Hopoindown31

So are you saying that this is 100 % because of the conditions in those areas not because people are not adhering to the rules ? Because a lot of posters on here said it was people said sod the rules I am going to carry on my life the way I want to?

If you live there tell us the truth ?

Unsure33 · 24/10/2020 10:08

@LakieLady

I am only quoting the posters from mumsnet who repeatedly say this. Not my words.

All I am saying it is hypocritical when they shoot down others who have similar opinions. And they can say no to sex if no condom being used.

I am appealing for solutions of getting the funds to the right children if there are any .

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