Etsy selling real fur *MNHQ Content Warning for written imagery of extreme animal cruelty*

[CSIblonde]

I searched faux fur cushions on Etsy & got a UK seller selling real rabbit fur, sourced from Hong Kong. I knew rabbit fur, imported, is ok in UK law but I didn't expect to find it on a modern,forward thinking company's website. You can't fail to know (sickening videos of it are everywhere ) that slaughter methods there involve a slow, painful death,often skinned alive. You can't email their CEO but there is an [email protected] who I emailed expressing my disappointment. I got the most patronising email back ,quoting import law & saying that because they have a diverse community & seller base there were bound to be some things I found 'disagreeable'. If you want to check it out, redbubble.com is just like Etsy but has way more choice,far nicer products & doesn't sell real fur.

That's awful. I'll send an email to Etsy and let them know I won't be buying from them if their standards are that damn low.

'Etsy' is not a seller. It is a huge community of sellers from all over the world.

They have lots of people selling vintage fur, as well as First Nation peoples selling traditional crafts.

Fur is allowed on Etsy for these reasons.

Etsy isnt the seller. It's just a website for independent makers to sell their work.

Why didnt you email the person making the products?

They aeebt breaking the law. You might not like it but they arent doing anything legally wrong.

@Lockheart, it's their site and it sells real fur. You are of course, entitled to your opinion but I won't use them any more. I don't view real fur products, from animals skinned alive as a 'traditional craft' I'm afraid. I wouldn't buy vintage fur either. Makes my skin crawl. I'm just letting people know there's a better, similar site that doesn't sell real fur.

Do you also refuse to use ebay because some sellers may sell things you dont agree with?

[quote CSIblonde]@Lockheart, it's their site and it sells real fur. You are of course, entitled to your opinion but I won't use them any more. I don't view real fur products, from animals skinned alive as a 'traditional craft' I'm afraid. I wouldn't buy vintage fur either. Makes my skin crawl. I'm just letting people know there's a better, similar site that doesn't sell real fur.[/quote]
I haven't expressed an opinion on fur. I've just pointed out why it's allowed on Etsy.

I'm fairly sure asking people to buy from certain sites is against MNs rules though...

There are no industries that skin alive, step away from fake news.

How do you know it's real fur? Does the advert state it?

Also how do you know it isn't a byproduct e.g. animal slaughtered (ethically?) for meat and then fur is used for this. I wouldn't trust internet videos.

@WhereveriGoddamLike , I didn't see the point, she's clearly making a fortune (£60-75 a cushion)& is proudly pictured wearing a hideous real fox fur coat . She's also replied to other sellers proudly stating where she gets the fur & how great her 'company' is . It's Etsy that would have the owner to remove her after all,not a few people contacting her.

@pawsies, yes she states it's real fur, from Hong Kong. And Google real fur Korea or Hong Kong or Yulin Dog Festival for videos on how they boil & skin alive dogs,cats & rabbits. The videos are horrific.

Etsy allow the sale of fur so you emailing won’t make them think ‘oh shit she broke our rules we need to ban her’

if you don’t like her stuff don’t buy from her 🤷🏽‍♀️

@pawsies the Yulin Festival has videos everywhere ,it's notorious & obviously not faked . You can see blood everywhere & the dogs being skinned & boiled inches from cameras. How do you fake a screeching,bleeding ,tied up dog trying to escape a guy skinning it or a dog sceaming as it's lowered into a vat of boiling water, hanging from a neck pole.

You'd need to sell a lot of £60 cushions to make a fortune!

@cobpickles of course I know that, that wasn't what I thought would happen . I just want them to know why I won't use them.

I don't think Etsy should allow the selling of cushions made from rabbit fur. Who on earth would want one anyway. I don't like vintage fur but don't think selling it should be banned. New fur yes.

@fallfallfall , Google Korea Meat Markets & Yulin Dog Festival .

[quote CSIblonde]@cobpickles of course I know that, that wasn't what I thought would happen . I just want them to know why I won't use them.[/quote]
what’s your AIBU?

@Katy1213, cushions aren't her only product. And most customers buy at least 2 cushions then come back for other stuff if you read her reviews. Also she's got lots of shots of her home . Shabby it is not.She's obviously wealthy.

@cobpickkes ,posting for traffic so people know there's an alternative. Shoot me now if you like. :-)

Just to be clear the "skinned" alive comments are 100% fabricated by you based on slightly racist rumours.

I can buy rabbit flesh in Tesco it's hard to get wound up about being able to buy its skin too.

[quote CSIblonde]@fallfallfall , Google Korea Meat Markets & Yulin Dog Festival .[/quote]
And by this logic, google "French foie gras production" see what scum those English are!! After all europe/Asia all one place right!

@Lockheart, I didn't ask people to buy off the other site I said check it out . They might check it out & not like it, we all have different taste . There are other similar great sites too if anyone's interested : Indiemade, Zibbet ,Bonanza etc.

@Elsewyre, the seller stated Hong Kong was her fur source, so that's why I referenced those places . Of course animal cruelty goes on in other places too.

I think you are getting a tad off track. Ate you sire this was about the fur. I'm not sure the description of dog markets was necessary.

Op you're lack of argument really isn't helping your cause.