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Racist contraceptive?

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BLMquestion · 18/10/2020 18:08

Name changed because I’ve discussed this in real life and don’t want to link to my other posts.

Recently started on the EVRA contraceptive patch. It sticks on your skin. I’m white (this is relevant). The patch is coloured a skin tone that matches mine, a pinky/beige colour.

Is it racist? Because it makes me feel like it’s been made for my skin tone and that a black woman wearing this would have something very much more visible than a white woman and so be disadvantaged.

AIBU?
YANBU- contraceptive patchers should be available in all skin tones or clear

YABU - it’s perfectly fine to have a pinky/beige contraceptive patch

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seayork2020 · 18/10/2020 23:52

having an item that is beige/cream/lightly pinkish on its own to me is not connected to race - the last time I went to the doctors they covered a sore I had with a white gauze plaster thing, I presume this would have happened if I was a different colour than white? as it is their standard colour

Butterer · 19/10/2020 00:01

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Elizaaa · 19/10/2020 00:05

Is it racist? Because it makes me feel like it’s been made for my skin tone and that a black woman wearing this would have something very much more visible than a white woman and so be disadvantaged

This is a pisstake, yes?

PickAChew · 19/10/2020 00:13

Plasters seem to be pretty much trump coloured. They're much darker than my skin tone.

And clear ones wouldn't work for me because I nerd the hypoallergenic micropore type or else I end up with scabs around my scabs.

SchrodingersImmigrant · 19/10/2020 00:34

Please note that no plasters are marketed as "flesh" colour because flesh is under the skin👀 sorryBlush We are closed to Halloween and it just keeps popping horrible pictures in my mind😂

Butterer · 19/10/2020 00:39

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SchrodingersImmigrant · 19/10/2020 00:42

Us is brutal about biology👀

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Tippexy · 19/10/2020 00:49

The thing is that “flesh coloured” fabric plasters really aren’t. They are a bizarre strong orange-pink colour. A white person and a black person could each put on one of the plasters and they would be equally obvious on each person.

Butterer · 19/10/2020 00:52

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springcleanwinter · 19/10/2020 03:09

Oh bore off! Everything is racist now days it’s just getting ridiculous.

Cam2020 · 19/10/2020 06:58

I used to have one that was blue but I'm not a smurf...

Now, we are made to feel less than because we are not Smurfette! The indignity!

CulturallyAppropriatedName · 19/10/2020 07:02

[quote EmilySpinach]Incidentally it is only in the last two years that ballet shoes in shades of black and brown have been available commercially in the UK. Previously dancers of colour had to dye their own shoes as only pink, white, and cream were available.

www.independent.co.uk/life-style/ballet-shoes-colours-pointe-dancers-dark-brown-bronze-uk-black-asian-ballerina-a8618676.html[/quote]
Well that is weird b/c my daughter did ballet from 7 to 3 years ago and black ballet shoes were freely available.

CulturallyAppropriatedName · 19/10/2020 07:04

Aah, pointe shoes. I stand corrected.

nosswith · 19/10/2020 07:51

I doubt if a thought has been given to skin colour by the manufacturers, but agree that various skin colours should be available.

We still have a high level of teenage pregnancies and there is a cultural issue of certain men refusing to wear condoms and pressurising/coercing women into unprotected sex, and so any potential obstacle to contraception should be overcome, especially if one so easy to achieve.

MinnieJackson · 19/10/2020 07:55

I doubt yours completely blends into your arm, I think pp's are right and it is a default colour though

SchrodingersImmigrant · 19/10/2020 08:07

@nosswith

I doubt if a thought has been given to skin colour by the manufacturers, but agree that various skin colours should be available.

We still have a high level of teenage pregnancies and there is a cultural issue of certain men refusing to wear condoms and pressurising/coercing women into unprotected sex, and so any potential obstacle to contraception should be overcome, especially if one so easy to achieve.

... i think that a sticker he can take off of you isn't the best contraceptive then...
DameFanny · 19/10/2020 09:03

@nosswith

I doubt if a thought has been given to skin colour by the manufacturers, but agree that various skin colours should be available.

We still have a high level of teenage pregnancies and there is a cultural issue of certain men refusing to wear condoms and pressurising/coercing women into unprotected sex, and so any potential obstacle to contraception should be overcome, especially if one so easy to achieve.

They gave enough thought to make it "skin colour" rather than white, blue, green.

It's a small thing but small things add up. That's what the OP is saying. Dismissing the small things is like ignoring the fact that train seats are designed for average men rather than average women, leaving us in discomfort. If we don't point these things out, how can they change?

MrsElijahMikaelson1 · 19/10/2020 09:07

My HRT patch is clear-I thought they all were, have had several different varieties as well...I think this is the best option rather than doing skin tones as your own skin shows through whatever colour it is.

Valkadin · 19/10/2020 09:14

I have experienced in your face racism as has my child a couple of times. I cannot get worked up about a plaster. I understand it could be considered a small thing that adds up but I honestly can’t. I had red and black ballet shoes as a child so it is untrue that only 3 colours were available.

Cam2020 · 19/10/2020 09:17

*They gave enough thought to make it "skin colour" rather than white, blue, green.

It's a small thing but small things add up. That's what the OP is saying. Dismissing the small things is like ignoring the fact that train seats are designed for average men rather than average women, leaving us in discomfort. If we don't point these things out, how can they change?*

Does it show bias to the majority? Yes, certainly. Would it be something that non white people might be interested in? Quite possibly. Would it be nice for non white people to have a choice? Yes it definitely would. Is mass producing an item to fit the majority racist? No.

This is the problem - calling things racist which are not for the sake of some virtue signalling drama. The danger with branding almost everything 'ist', is that people tune out and then the real 'ist' ssues are overlooked. People lose patience and interest when everything is dramatised.

SchrodingersImmigrant · 19/10/2020 09:17

Do you remember leukoplast ones? Long strip and you cut off how much you needed and took your skin off when you were taking them off. I remember them in different shades.

Is it possible to make textile ones clear? Or make clear ones stick like textile ones?

Cam2020 · 19/10/2020 09:20

It's a small thing but small things add up. That's what the OP is saying. Dismissing the small things is like ignoring the fact that train seats are designed for average men rather than average women, leaving us in discomfort. If we don't point these things out, how can they change?.

No, OP is calling it racist. It is not. That's waht has got peoples back up, not whether people should have choice.

DameFanny · 19/10/2020 10:10

@Cam2020

It's a small thing but small things add up. That's what the OP is saying. Dismissing the small things is like ignoring the fact that train seats are designed for average men rather than average women, leaving us in discomfort. If we don't point these things out, how can they change?.

No, OP is calling it racist. It is not. That's waht has got peoples back up, not whether people should have choice.

It's a thing that contributes to systemic racism

If calling things racist gets people's backs up, maybe they should do some self & examination as to why.

You're not racist for not having noticed something like this - if however you work in product design it's good that you should be challenged on your default assumptions, and asked to do better.

But there's currently this weird hostility from some quarters about being asked to do better. Calling people virtue-signallers and do-gooders, when most people just want things to get better for everyone.

But vice-signalling and do-badders go unremarked, or people noticing are told to mind their own business. Weird.