Racist contraceptive?

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Name changed because I’ve discussed this in real life and don’t want to link to my other posts.

Recently started on the EVRA contraceptive patch. It sticks on your skin. I’m white (this is relevant). The patch is coloured a skin tone that matches mine, a pinky/beige colour.

Is it racist? Because it makes me feel like it’s been made for my skin tone and that a black woman wearing this would have something very much more visible than a white woman and so be disadvantaged.

AIBU?
YANBU- contraceptive patchers should be available in all skin tones or clear

YABU - it’s perfectly fine to have a pinky/beige contraceptive patch

@Ylfa

The weaponisation of our female biology (rape, surrogacy etc) is inherently misogynistic though. Misogyny isn’t a feeling, it’s an act of everyone’s will.

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Sigh. It’s as near to white skin tone as manufacturers can get. Funny how you’re so sensitive to varying shades of white skin tone yet completely unable to acknowledge that the patches are designed for white skin in mind

Sigh yourself, I'm not white Thanks for the lazy assumption and rudeness though.

@SwimbleCold

Sigh. It’s as near to white skin tone as manufacturers can get. Funny how you’re so sensitive to varying shades of white skin tone yet completely unable to acknowledge that the patches are designed for white skin in mind

Sigh yourself, I'm not white Thanks for the lazy assumption and rudeness though.

Where did I say you’re white?

Nice try

Misogyny isn’t a feeling, it’s an act of everyone’s will.

It’s a feeling. When enough people feel it, it can become systemic.

@SwimbleCold don’t understand your issue. You said could we please stop pretending white skin is one tone and I said the patches are as near to white skin tone as manufacturers can get and yet somehow I’ve made a lazy assumption? Could you clarify your thought process?

@flaviaritt

Misogyny isn’t a feeling, it’s an act of everyone’s will.

It’s a feeling. When enough people feel it, it can become systemic.

Doesn’t that imply that there is no misogyny because not everyone feels it?

Doesn’t that imply that there is no misogyny because not everyone feels it?

I don’t think so, no. Those that feel dislike of women because they are women, or who harbour prejudicial assumptions about women, are misogynists.

You said could we please stop pretending white skin is one tone and I said the patches are as near to white skin tone as manufacturers can get

Yes, thereby doing exactly the same thing. you said its the nearest they can get to white skin tone....as if there is one white skin tone. Which was my point. "White" can range from palest tippex shades to darker than many mixed race people. What "white" are they aiming for? And why?
I've seen so called "skin tone" that is the shade of talc. There are many white skin tones, same as there are many black skin tones, and many asian skin tones, and more./

So misogyny can be translated into action, it’s not just a feeling.

Think we agree and are just arguing over semantics.

It’s so not a feeling though is it? It’s central to everyone’s inculcation into a patriarchal system. We learn it, we internalise it, we act upon it. Otherwise the system would fail.

Think we agree and are just arguing over semantics.

No, we don’t agree and it’s not semantics. Misogyny is a form of prejudice. Patriarchy is a system of actions and conditions. They are distinctly different things.

In this discussion, the point isn’t semantic at all. Not everything that disadvantages women is misogyny. And not everything that disadvantages people of one race over another is racism.

@SwimbleCold

You said could we please stop pretending white skin is one tone and I said the patches are as near to white skin tone as manufacturers can get

Yes, thereby doing exactly the same thing. you said its the nearest they can get to white skin tone....as if there is one white skin tone. Which was my point. "White" can range from palest tippex shades to darker than many mixed race people. What "white" are they aiming for? And why?
I've seen so called "skin tone" that is the shade of talc. There are many white skin tones, same as there are many black skin tones, and many asian skin tones, and more./

Yes but the same applies to other skin tones. There isn’t just one shade of black, there are hundreds. There isn’t just one shade of South Asian skin, there are hundreds.

You can buy ‘nude’ pop socks designed for white skin, brown for brown skin and black for black skin.

However some products are designed with just white shades in mind because it is the default.

It’s so not a feeling though is it? It’s central to everyone’s inculcation into a patriarchal system. We learn it, we internalise it, we act upon it.

It is a feeling. You can dress it up, but you are conflating the feeling with its outcomes, then redefining everything that occurs that results in a similar outcome as being a result of that feeling. Which it isn’t.

And so it is with white supremacy and colonialism. At the very root of all our collective despair and suffering and rage are these oppressive systems.

I don’t understand how we can reduce it to ‘a feeling’ but I will think about it.

Also: sorry for derail 😳🙄

@Rummikub, little bit late but I see what you mean and understand it. I thought you meant something else. Thanks for taking the trouble to explain.

@RedSquirrelGreySquirrel
You’re welcome 😊