To ask what the point is of lockdown

[Whenismumhome]

We’ve had one lockdown. Why do we need to do it again?

So we have a few restrictions, those restrictions need to be lifted and then the cases rise again.

Seriously, why even bother?

I agree but a few of the covid police will be along shortly to tell you why OP...

As I understand, it’s to make sure we have enough free hospital beds to accommodate those that need ICUs. I’m not sure how exactly it’s calculated. We are in a medium area but I know our local hospital is already full, so if there were a sudden rise of Covid cases here it wouldn’t be good. They want to avoid the scenes we saw in Italy when the health service was completely overwhelmed.

I agree op
We shut down in March for 3 months. Ruined the economy

Now we are back where we were in early March with cases/ hospital admission numbers
I just can’t see what a two week ‘circuit break ( Aka another lockdown) would achieve Especially since the incubation time is 2-14 days

To keep a lid on numbers so that there is room in hospitals for non-covid patients too, to make sure enough people stay well to run essential services, etc. It's not that hard to understand, surely?

You also need to remember that cases rise exponentially if things are left unchecked, so a two week circuit break would make a massive difference to the number of cases over the height of winter.

@Halliehallie9828

I agree but a few of the covid police will be along shortly to tell you why OP...

Is that really necessary? People who might have an alternative explanation have to be treated to derogatory jibes even before explaining it?

ok

here is the scenario

we don't do lockdown

we let the virus run free . The nhs is over whelmed with people needing hospital treatment , your work place has multiple people off either ill or isolating as a result your business cant function - you lose contracts you go bust .

The virus spreads to areas that have perhaps one or two hospitals ( like cornwall ) intensive care is full . You have a car accident - no bed for you .

you take the virus into a care home - it spreads - again not even a chance of getting to hospital. The staff get it and so even the people who survive have no one to look after them

the doctors and nurses have to chose who to treat .

You might think I am exaggerating - I am not I am seeing it happen in other countries now -

Lockdown is not the only way to ruin a business.

And then of course there is the human aspect as well of losing your relatives and arranging the funerals

If we lock down now for say three weeks then cases rise once things open up again, then that will take us into December. Surely that’s an even more difficult time for the NHS?

@Halliehallie9828

try and have a bit of empathy for people who have lost people to this virus .

To reduce the pressure on the health care system.

Also there are reports of the faster tests ( I know this is true because of the industry I work in ) plus hopefully the vaccine . So we may only have to do this a few times more before there is more hope.

The last lockdown didn't really work because everyone took up cycling and jogging,hardly anyone actually stayed home and followed the rules.

Everyone should watch the two doctors who were on BBC this morning they explained it very well .

Probably better than listening to a politician that you have already decided you hate - so you go tone deaf .

@Owlypants

I think they know that a lot of cases are more from mixing households and not sticking to social distancing than outside pursuits tbh.

I agree OP it’s exhausting!!

@Dinocan

exactly

look at the reports in the Czek republic - trust me people are very scared there including business owners who can not operate. it has been very sudden

Yes. Yabu for asking as there have been about 20 threads about this exact thing in the last week.

To reduce pressure in hospital.

My hospital is overrun already and we are in Tier 1. Patients are being discharged early and wards being turned back into covid wards so now speciality teams can't admit people. That could be your child, your mum, your husband etc needing surgery / stroke rehab / elderly care etc. They can't get it in my hospital currently - they'd be on generic medical beds without specialist care till there were no beds left and you'd be diverted elsewhere who have the same issues. We are close to redeployment again due to the number of staff needing to self isolate. Outpatient work will stop again.

We desperately need the case numbers to go down in our area if we want to even some healthcare to all.

There are no winners in a pandemic. Different thing suffer at different times.

Christina Pagel, independent SAGE member, has apparently just stated on Sky TV that unless circuit breaker lockdown is implemented immediately hospitals will be unable to cope in a few weeks' time.

YABU not to post this in the Coronavirus topic (where there are many, many similar threads)

@Unsure33

ok

here is the scenario

we don't do lockdown

we let the virus run free . The nhs is over whelmed with people needing hospital treatment , your work place has multiple people off either ill or isolating as a result your business cant function - you lose contracts you go bust .

The virus spreads to areas that have perhaps one or two hospitals ( like cornwall ) intensive care is full . You have a car accident - no bed for you .

you take the virus into a care home - it spreads - again not even a chance of getting to hospital. The staff get it and so even the people who survive have no one to look after them

the doctors and nurses have to chose who to treat .

You might think I am exaggerating - I am not I am seeing it happen in other countries now -

Lockdown is not the only way to ruin a business.

And then of course there is the human aspect as well of losing your relatives and arranging the funerals

This is true. War time criteria came into play in March. Frail, elderly, underlying health conditions, including LD and Mental illness - you were last in line to access a ventilator.

And last in line to have basic CPR if needed.

I think some people prefer it because they don't have much going on anyway and now they have a valid reason to stay inside and not see anyone.

Did the last lockdown have ANY??? Effect on the virus? Is this not a seasonal virus that thrives in cooler weather? Did the reduction in cases we saw come from lockdown? Or was this down to summer? Could we have opened the economy sooner? Gave companies the summer to recover, sent children to school in the summer so their education is less fucked than it already is because a second wave was always inevitable wasnt it.

Its all too little too late and we're heading for crisis. I dont know if im more anxious about covid or losing line and or DP's jobs and consequently our home , or my DD's year 11 education going to the wall. Im in the process of sorting care home for my mother with serious mental health problems and complex medical needs, most wont take her and i can't even visit, god knows whete she'll end up but im probably sentencing her to death by covid anyway.

We. Are. Fucked. and despite fully intending on complying with another lockdown i highly doubt it will work.

Im scared

If the number of cases in the population is too high it's impossible to operate a track and trace system. By reducing the number of people infected we become able to track and trace those who are infected within the population. The ultimate aim is to ensure our hospitals aren't overwhelmed.

It's a right hassle but no one seems to have any suggestions as an alternative. If you look at the hospital admissions exponentially rising it's fairly obvious you can't do nothing.