To share the stupidest thing I have ever heard

[Sparklfairy]

My friend is away in a country that a few days into her holiday brought in quarantine restrictions upon returning to the UK. No big deal to her, she can wfh and organise deliveries etc.

She just told me she was chatting around the pool and people are confused about when quarantine actually 'starts'. Most have convinced themselves it's the day after you land 'to give them time to go shopping and get food and everything ready and stuff'.

So you're quarantined, but you have a magical window of time where you can get supplies and merrily skip round the supermarket infecting everyone saying 'Oh, I'm not in quarantine until tomorrow'.

I'm not sure if they're spectacularly thick or just so entitled they've twisted the rules to suit themselves. I don't normally get annoyed about CV or what other people do but really!?

@violetbunny

Yesterday DP looked on in complete surprise as I snapped the end off a box cutter (using the snapping tool at the end of it), revealing the next layer of sharp edge. Apparently he had no idea this was something you could do when the blade got blunt.

He was equally amazed a few years ago when I emptied the crumb tray from the toaster, had no idea crumb trays existed 😂

Sorry WHAT? I did not know that about box cutters!

@GoldfishParade - I have a lot of Muslim friends who do not celebrate Christmas. They celebrate Eid al-Fitr which is an enormous celebration at the end of Ramadan. Apologies to all Muslim MNetters if I’ve got any details done.

Christmas isn’t compulsory.........

[quote GoldfishParade]@PopsicleHustler
I know loads of Muslims who properly go in for Christmas.

The fact that you are from a traditionally Christian background and have converted to Islam but now dont celebrate Christmas is really sad and leads me to question what led to your conversion. Christmas is now a national knees up with practically zero religious overtones unless you go actively looking for them. The fact that you live in a place where christmas is a joyous pinnacle of the year, were born into that culture, have kids yet still dont celebrate it sounds really grim and soulless.

I can understand converting to Islam, I cant understand being so desperate to alter who you are that you then condemn yourself and your kids to spending every december without a feast, presents, mince pies, singing, coming together with friends and family.[/quote]
@GoldfishParade you do realise that Islam has quite a few celebrations of its own right? Some of which involve feasts, presents and coming together with friends and family? (Also mince pies are shit)

Wow, @GoldfishParade, judgemental much?

Not my mince pies😁
(I put chocolate chips in mine 😋)

Once we were in Newcastle and a couple heard our Scottish accents and were very curious. They couldn't understand that it had only taken a couple of hours to get there. They asked us what sort of buildings we had in Scotland and whether we had ever heard of Tesco
My aunt read online that drinking warm vinegar prevents you from getting coronavirus which is a brilliant example of natural selection if I've ever heard one. Ffs.

@GoldfishParade

So after Popsicle gave a list of awful questions and comments she’s received including So you dont eat pork, because I have heard you love a good sausage in you, the only thing you can focus is that she’s ‘desperate’ and ‘condemning’ herself to no Christmas?

Yes, many Muslims do ‘go in’ for Christmas, but many don’t. That does for converts too. And many Atheists celebrate Christmas and many don’t. Not celebrating Christmas doesn’t mean you’re desperate or condemning yourself.

Sadly I’m not surprised at your twisting Popsicle’s post against her. MNers are either silent or complicit against treatment of Muslims.

Good to see comments supporting Popsicle

@GoldfishParade I find it quite grim and soulless when children don’t get to celebrate vaisakhi.

American tourist to travel agent:

Is there a bus from Sidney to Aukland?
Is there a bridge from Wales to Ireland?

@GoldfishParade We have some pretty great Sikh festivals. Just sayin’ Not everyone in the whole entire world celebrates Christmas. Live and let live.

[quote GoldfishParade]@SharonasCorona
I just don't understand why you'd want to reject something so basic and fun when it's been a part of who you are until your conversion. I understand Muslims who aren't from that background originally not being bothered, but if you ARE it just strikes me as weird.[/quote]
You do realise that not everyone finds Christmas fun (or celebrates it much) even when they have been brought up celebrating it?

@hanka

Not my mince pies😁 (I put chocolate chips in mine 😋)

Oooh chocolate might make me change my opinion on them tbh

@GoldfishParade
Google Eid-al-Fitr and Eid-al-Adha and then decide if anyone is missing out by not celebrating Christmas!

@SharonasCorona
MNers are either silent or complicit against treatment of Muslims.

Unnecessary comment and untrue anyway.

@PolkadotGiraffe

On an individual level, the competition is tough. I'd say my worst examples are:

1. Women cannot bear egg gametes because if they laid eggs we would see them come out every month like with chickens.

2. Can't we just take a load of freezers to the poles to restore the ice caps that are melting?

3. The Earth can't be spinning otherwise we would fly off into space.

I could go on, but won't put you all through more mental pain.

We must always remember (as anyone who has every worked with the public is painfully aware), that the average IQ is 100... so 50% of the population are short of that, which is pretty scary when you start to interact with some of them.

It's pretty scary that you think that's how averages work

[quote GoldfishParade]@SharonasCorona
I just don't understand why you'd want to reject something so basic and fun when it's been a part of who you are until your conversion. I understand Muslims who aren't from that background originally not being bothered, but if you ARE it just strikes me as weird.[/quote]
Sometimes converts are more observant Muslims than born-Muslims and there’s nothing wrong with that. There is plenty to celebrate in Islam, you don’t need Christmas to fill a void, I promise!

And so many Atheists / nominally Christian people who celebrated Christmas as a child don’t really celebrate now, preferring to go away on holiday or have a low key day.

Many find it expensive and the pressure to have the perfect Christmas quite stressful.

Yes I totally get that there are awesome festivals in other religions, I'm not disputing that at all I'm just saying that I dont understand why it has to be either or. For example if I married a Muslim guy I would expect to celebrate eid and also christmas. Also I do understand the appeal of Islam but if I became Muslim I dont think my religion would negate the culture I had grown up with so I would be trying to fuse both rather than pretend one didnt exist. But okay, people are different.

@GoldfishParade exactly - people are different. Just because you would chose to celebrate both doesn't mean it is horrible that someone else has chosen not to.

[quote FrizzyHairMalarkey]@GoldfishParade
Google Eid-al-Fitr and Eid-al-Adha and then decide if anyone is missing out by not celebrating Christmas!

@SharonasCorona
MNers are either silent or complicit against treatment of Muslims.

Unnecessary comment and untrue anyway.[/quote]
@FrizzyHairMalarkey sadly that’s been my experience on many threads. As you can see, no one has told Popsicle that the things she has had to go through were wrong. I never bring up religion but I get asked some terrible questions ‘you only fast for Ramadan because you get a feast at the end don’t you?’ that I’m uncomfortable now having open discussions about my religion.

Also, even Muslims who do celebrate a Christmas in some way, presents, turkey etc get asked ‘Why are you celebrating Christmas?’ (not necessarily in a nasty way). You just can’t win!

@Feelingconfused2020

Jaichangecentfoisdenom Yes a complete snob. Let's face it you asked to be called it, at least you know yourself.

You actually split.up with a guy over this!? Get over yourself. How would you feel if someone split up with you because you didn't know that Gareth Baile played for Tottenham? (I don't know.if he did I just made that up.btw) it is possible to be in love with someone with different interests and priorities.

It was just the straw that broke this particular camel's back. We weren't compatible. Should never have got together in the first place. That's it. I got out after staying too long with him, from inertia. Really glad I didn't marry him out of inertia, too. Now been married for 30 years to someone I have nothing in common with, and luckily for us, it works.

Fair enough - I take these points. I am sorry if I offended you Popsicle, please accept my apologies for hassling you re Christmas x

My DH has a not-so-bright family member that once asked at dinner what chicken was made of. I wish he (or I) was joking, but it's really true.

I had a similar exchange with a student who had said, "Uhg, who'd eat a bird?"

I asked if she ate chicken.

My mum had some corkers, she asked a friend who is deaf if she had a braille watch.

That you can't legally change your first name.

I brought her a rosary from a holiday, they were made of string with knots instead of beads, she loved them and said they would be great to keep in her purse in case of emergency.

I can understand having a fire extinguisher, a parachute, oxygen, lots of things for emergencies but not a rosary.

News flash, Pakistani people are not all muslims and they tend to wear their own cultural clothes, rather than a long dress what I wear.

My dad goes to an RC church with a large Pakistani congregation. One of the (not Pakistani) women 'always checks' that the Pakistani congregants drink the wine during communion in case they are 'secret muslims' There is ignorance everywhere.

BTW I'm atheist and don't celebrate Xmas.

@HandfulofDust

An Oxbridge educated lawyer: "is infertility hereditary?"

To be fair it sometimes is.

You'll have to take my word for it but in the context of the conversation it was a very stupid question.