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toiletpaper · 09/10/2020 19:19

I'm a single mother to two lovely kids, have a FT job working three 12.5 hour shifts a week, have a dog and have to run a house all on my own. How do people manage to do it all, and more, successfully? I don't often have energy to make a hearty good meal and simple stuff like washing dishes, laundry and hoovering I find a chore (no pun intended). I wonder sometimes if it's a case of not being able to cope with it all and maybe there's a hint of depression but I don't want to trivialise the horrors of real depression if it's not. I'd love to be able to make some sort of rota for house jobs as I think that would help but I work shifts all over the place so that wouldn't work. I'd also love to be able to drop to two shifts a week as I think it would help but don't think I could afford it.

Some tips or advice would be much appreciated!

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HotPatootiebootie · 10/10/2020 13:09

I had 4 kids at home and worked myself silly. It's hard.

I found that for healthy meals it was best to put my own kits together. So for chicken casserole I would throw frozen chicken legs, frozen bag of casserole veg and a sachet of casserole spices into the slow cooker. Same can be done for sausage casserole, chilli , Bolognaise etc. Sausage and beans on toast is perfectly fine one night, as is baked potatoes with tuna and sweet corn.

I found that getting dog food, cleaning stuff, toilet rolls, soap, shampoo and tooth paste on subscription via amazon to be a life saver as I often forgot and ran out. I only shopped online and that made a huge difference both in terms of convenience and saving money not buying stuff I didn't need on a whim.

toiletpaper · 10/10/2020 14:03

@YouUnlockedTheGateAnd I looked into this before and the ones I saw had to be plumbed in, which negates the point of having a countertop dishwasher in my eyes. If you find one in the uk (currys etc) that takes from the tap and drains into the sink then I'll be your friend forever Grin

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CurlyhairedAssassin · 10/10/2020 14:11

Who has the kids and dog while you're doing those long shifts? Would whoever it is be able to do the odd thing for you eg a load of washing or a bit of ironing?

toiletpaper · 10/10/2020 14:55

@CurlyhairedAssassin my kids go to my ex's parents at their house and if I'm days the dog goes to doggy daycare, if I'm nights he'll stay in the house on his own. I've got nobody to help me out at all. I'm down with either a cold or allergies today so I'm not feeling like doing anything. Bloody typical Sad

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toiletpaper · 10/10/2020 15:25

@VinylDetective oh my, I love you! Honestly, washing dishes is the job I hate the most so this will make my life so much less stressful. I'll go check what tap I have and the aerator thing and get buying Grin

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VinylDetective · 10/10/2020 15:34

Hope it works for you. I love my dishwasher, it’s a life changer.

user1471538283 · 10/10/2020 15:34

It is such hard work! When DS was small I worked full time and studied. I coped by doing laundry late at night and spending a day each weekend getting on top of things. I still do that now. But do try and look after yourself

Thecurtainsofdestiny · 10/10/2020 17:41

You sound amazing OP! I second pps who advised to give yourself a break.

I'm not a single parent but have my own challenges with shifts and a chronic health condition that affects my motivation to do things. I've found the following useful when lacking motivation:

  1. I play a " game" called Repatriation. For 10 minutes I " repatriate" stuff from all over the house to where it should be.

  2. Another "game" - "Ten minutes". - that task I can't be bothered to do because it seems like too much - I commit to do it for just 10 minutes. Sometimes it is done in 10 minutes, sometimes it's enough to kick-start my motivation, sometimes I stop there and do another 10 minutes another day.

alwayslearning789 · 10/10/2020 18:51

Just to say great tips from all and Thanks for starting the thread OP:)

PeteWicksSexyPirate · 10/10/2020 19:06

@Thecurtainsofdestiny I’m loving the repatriation game 😂

BewilderedDoughnut · 10/10/2020 19:26

How do people manage to do it all, and more, successfully?

They don't. Long-gone are the days where it was assumed women could 'have it all'. If you try and conquer all areas, they will probably all fall short. I think you have to make a choice.

I chose to live a life of as few responsibilities as possible. Outside of my businesses, I am not responsible for a thing.

toiletpaper · 10/10/2020 19:40

@BewilderedDoughnut

How do people manage to do it all, and more, successfully?

They don't. Long-gone are the days where it was assumed women could 'have it all'. If you try and conquer all areas, they will probably all fall short. I think you have to make a choice.

I chose to live a life of as few responsibilities as possible. Outside of my businesses, I am not responsible for a thing.

But when you run a house on your own and have sole responsibility for two kids that's not always so easy. But I will take some pressure off myself and realise I can't do it all.

@VinylDetective I bought the Klarstein dishwasher, I'm so excited for when it arrives! It's going to make such a difference  thank you so much

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Misty9 · 10/10/2020 19:41

I'll admit I haven't rtft (one of the things which gives with less time Grin) but, honestly? I tidy all. The. Bloody. Time. And I don't do much cleaning... Blush as I don't notice the dirt as much as the clutter! Obviously I wipe the kitchen surfaces etc, but none of that deep cleaning shite. I wash things when they smell need it, I have taught the kids to tidy up after themselves (ongoing project...) but, most of all, I've realised that I don't need to feed them a wholesome meal every night. They're actually perfectly happy with packed lunch tea, or egg on toast, or other simple things (they have cooked dinner at school but always seem hungry afterwards). In other words, don't sweat the small stuff.

That said, we live in a small house and are about to move to a bigger one... Shock

VinylDetective · 10/10/2020 20:00

So pleased you got the dishwasher. Do let us know when it arrives.

toiletpaper · 10/10/2020 20:46

@VinylDetective will do Grin

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toiletpaper · 10/10/2020 20:48

@Misty9

I'll admit I haven't rtft (one of the things which gives with less time Grin) but, honestly? I tidy all. The. Bloody. Time. And I don't do much cleaning... Blush as I don't notice the dirt as much as the clutter! Obviously I wipe the kitchen surfaces etc, but none of that deep cleaning shite. I wash things when they smell need it, I have taught the kids to tidy up after themselves (ongoing project...) but, most of all, I've realised that I don't need to feed them a wholesome meal every night. They're actually perfectly happy with packed lunch tea, or egg on toast, or other simple things (they have cooked dinner at school but always seem hungry afterwards). In other words, don't sweat the small stuff.

That said, we live in a small house and are about to move to a bigger one... Shock

I notice it's a lot of clutter with me too tbh and that's what really gets me down! When I have a good clutter clear the house looks SO much better. I think having a cleaner would make me keep on top of this too as they wouldn't clear my clutter and they wouldn't be able to clean if there was clutter
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forrestgreen · 10/10/2020 21:09

We used to play a cleaning game

Write a task on a slip of paper, eg wipe skirtings in lounge with a damp cloth.
Repeat for all the stuff that needs doing.

Everyone takes a slip and runs off to do it, you can only have one swap (it'll be the loo!)

Not saying the cleaning will be up to par but put some loud music on and it's fun.

Hobnobsandbroomstick · 11/10/2020 00:30

I don’t do 12.5 hour shifts anymore, but I take my hat off to you doing it with two young kids and not much help. I found when I did long day/night shifts it was really hard to keep any form of a weekly routine, or even know what week it was, and I had to plan way in advance to keep up. Some rambly random tips aimed at making life easier:

I use the calendar on my phone to write reminders for everything, car insurance renewal, birthdays (I save a reminder with their address five days before their actual birthday so I remember to post their card), to text a friend “good luck” for a job interview or scan etc, everything.

I buy birthday cards for everyone I know once a year, and keep them in a box with stamps and couple of random new home, engagement, baby and wedding ones.

Declutter EVERYTHING and apply the “toothbrush principle” to everything: everything needs to have a home and live there. This takes time, and you might need to invest in more storage, but is so worth it. Try doing 10 – 15 minutes of decluttering a day for the next month or so, and be ruthless; if you haven’t used it recently then get rid. Life is much easier when you have less stuff. Google “decluttering challenge” for inspiration, find one you like the look of and try it. Better to do little and often so it’s less overwhelming, set a timer to keep you focused.

I also like TOMM, I have the app and have altered it quite a lot now, but I like the idea of the level one and two jobs, and love the playlists on spotify. My level one jobs are: make the bed, wipe down the kitchen worktops, hoover the kitchen for a minute (usually while the kettle boils in the morning), and give the bathroom a two minute clean (usually do this straight after brushing my teeth in the evening). I love that Gemma’s motto is “there’s more to life than housework”, so true. If you look up the organised mum on insta, she posted something about how it’s impossible to have/do it all; something has to give if you try to do too much, so be easy with yourself.

On your days off, do the chores that you don’t enjoy first thing to get them out the way. There’s a quote by Mark Twain that goes: “If it's your job to eat a frog, it's best to do it first thing in the morning. And If it's your job to eat two frogs, it's best to eat the biggest one first.” Basically it’s best to do what you don’t want to do as soon as you can so the mental load of it doesn’t have time to build up through the day and seem overwhelming. Set a timer and tell yourself you only have to do 30 minutes, or just 10 minutes if you are struggling to get motivated, it’s surprising how much you get done in 10 solid minutes.
Listen to music, audiobooks or podcasts while doing chores you don’t enjoy (try not to have tv on as it’s easy to get sucked in to sitting down). Focus on getting it done and then enjoy your guilt free day off.

Get an audible and Spotify subscription for the above.

Get a cordless hoover and spray mop.

Get a “crap basket”, maybe three different ones for you and both of your kids, then when tidying in a hurry you can just chuck stuff in there and get them to sort through it later.

Only have black socks that all match each other.

Don’t have a laundry basket; dirty clothes go straight it washing machine, and it goes on when full. If it has a timer, programme it to come on so it’s done first thing in the morning (or when you get up if on nights), put everything on for an extra couple of spins so it dries quicker.

Don’t fold anything; if you have space then buy a clothes rail and a load of hangers, everything goes on a hanger straight out the washing machine, then straight onto clothes rail.

Rotate summer and winter wardrobe: go through everything around May and October, and donate/throw things that you no longer wear or are worn out, put the out of season stuff in vacuum storage bags and away. Gives you more room in your wardrobe and easier to see what you’ve got.

Meal plan for a month. Once you’ve written out a meal plan with the matching shopping list, you can reuse it without much thought. Saves time and money.

Batch cook, and think about getting a chest freezer if you have space for one. I used to have one and loved it, when I did long days I would plan to spend one of my days off at the start of the month batch cooking a load of meals for dinner, things like chilli con carne, curries, lasagne, pasta sauces, stews, shepherd’s pie, soups. Solids went in reusable plastic containers, liquids in freezer bags that were frozen flat. Everything labelled and dated (bit of masking tape on reusable containers), and then I would write a list of what was in there and cross it off as I ate it, so it was easy to know what was in there. I also used to have a load of frozen veg, chips (sweet potato ones are healthy right) and fish fingers etc in there for when I just wanted to chuck stuff in the oven. But on the monthly batch cooking day I would motivate myself by telling myself if I did it all now it would just be a case of reheating it for the rest of the month, and would have something on to binge watch in the background while I cooked.

Get a slow cooker.

Take vitamin D.

Try to keep a routine (as much as you can with the shifts) and get a little bit of exercise every day. You mention in your OP that you have no energy and you’re not sure if it’s a hint of depression, I have recently been quite depressed, and found keeping a routine and making myself do a little bit of exercise every day, even just a ten minute walk, has been really helpful.

Hobnobsandbroomstick · 11/10/2020 00:35

Also have a serious look at your finances on the salary calculator website and figure out if you can afford to cut your hours a bit. Are you a nurse? My friend does 30 hours per week, so 2 long shifts one week, and 3 the next, and loves it, says it has made a real difference to work life balance. If she needs extra then she does a bank/agency shift.

KenAdams · 11/10/2020 00:48

There was a quick meals thread on here recently that's worth looking at.

I have a Bissell £15 carpet sweeper that's great for when you can't hoover and the kids can use it too. Laundry is sorted into piles once its done and the kids can fold their own. Doing it in front of a film means it gets done without them really noticing. Kids have a routine that involves sorting out their stuff when they come in from school. They can also do small jobs like the dusting or emptying the dishwasher. Sink is cleaned whilst I brush my teeth, bleached chucked into the toilet last thing at night and the bath is cleaned just after a shower. I hate cleaning so its boring. The thing that gets me is the constant tidying but make part of the bedtime routine 5 mins of popping your stuff away before you go up.

Plan to do no housework on the days you work as it likely won't get done anyway but you won't feel bad if you're just too tired.

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