To meet friend if we are in local lockdown?

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I'm in Newcastle.
The rules are not to mix with anyone outside your household/bubble.
Now I live alone but have another friend who I've been bubbling up with.
Now this other friend (who lives alone with 2 kids) has asked me to go to the pub tonight.
Aibu to go?
As she lives alone but has been seeing other people who aren't in her household.
Is anyone even sticking to these rules ?
I'm safe ,I keep 2 metres
Wear a mask
Anti bac after ever shop/touch anything
Have Milton spray which I spray toilets/bus seats/toilet seats before I sit on them.
Aibu ?

If this is within local rules then perfectly fine.
If you keep 2m away from her (and everyone else in the pub), you will minimise your risk.

If you are worried, you could always suggest that you go for a walk and/or meet at one of your houses?

Yabu to do anything which is a breach of regulations whether or not you agree with them. I understand it's tough but its important x

I'm just fed up of it all now.
Pubs /restaurants are shutting here from Wednesday for two weeks.
Even tho it's the uni students who are spreading it.
The pubs are so well organised

@RedskyAtnight

If this is within local rules then perfectly fine. If you keep 2m away from her (and everyone else in the pub), you will minimise your risk.

If you are worried, you could always suggest that you go for a walk and/or meet at one of your houses?

Exactly this. If within local rules, do it but keep distanced. If not, don't. I don't know what your local rules are so can't say if a breach. I would be concerned she has been mixing which I think is your concern but make sure you both keep distance, hand gel and use mask and you should be fine x

If you are her official bubble then you can go.

No, its not allowed so you shouldn't go:

Residents must not socialise with other people outside of their own households or support bubble indoors, such as pubs and restaurants

Everyone is fed up of it.

If she's not in your bubble then you can't mix with her. Being fed up of it doesn't make you a special case.

i dont think the pub is the best idea

milton?
doesnt that bleach things?

YABU. We're in the north east, in a small quiet town with low covid numbers, and we're in the lockdown because the entire north east is. I'm really struggling with not seeing my parents but we're sticking to it, because if people don't, that's why it's spreading and why we've ended up in this lockdown. We're allowed to see someone we are in a bubble with (I struggle to use that term and bubbling up 😩) and only allowed to pick one person, not chop and change, so if you're already "bubbling up" with someone, you can't change to someone else. You're definitely not allowed to meet at one of your houses and you're not supposed to meet at a pub either, you're only supposed to go out with people from your own household/bubble.

If you are her official bubble then you can go

Yes but shes not her bubble.

YABVU if youre breaching local guidelines

if you know the rules why do you ask here if you can bend them?

We're all fed up with it.

@JamminDoughnuts she isn't in a bubble with anyone else I don't think so I don't know if it is really such a bad thing. Considering she's not mixing

Is the friend in your bubble or not (I read the OP that she was, but see that several people have read it a different way)? If she's the friend in your bubble then fine. If another friend, then not fine.

I’m in a local lockdown area and I will not meet anyone outside of my household, as we have been advised. Other people are ignoring the rules though. I had a friend call up and ask if she could pop round for coffee yesterday. She works in a hospital with Covid positive cases as do her three housemates and their toddlers are currently home sick from the nursery at the hospital. Even if we weren’t banned from mixing in our homes and gardens, I’d not put myself at risk due to previously shielding but there’s no way I’m breaking the rules either. In some local lockdowns you are only advised not to meet up in public either (though it’s not illegal) but I still think it’s wrong to ignore advice so personally I’d decline.

@RedskyAtnight it's another friend but this friend isn't in a bubble with anyone else.
So I don't know if she can join our bubble or not.

It may be the uni students who are spreading it, but imagine if you go to a pub with this friend, who you say has been seeing other people as well, who aren't in her household, someone could have passed it on to her, she doesn't know yet and passes it to you. You then go and do some shopping and she goes and sees someone else who commutes into Newcastle from elsewhere in the north east....and so it goes on. It's hard, we're all fed up, but stick to the rules and we might get through it quicker.

@Toothsil she has been seeing other people but just family members

Sorry didn't explain well she isn't in a bubble and the only people outside her house she's been seeing are her parents and brother.

so surely she is in her parents bubble?

She can't join your bubble. You know she can't.

She's been seeing other people and has no doubt been seeing her parents on the basis of them being her bubble.

She can't chop and change her bubble on a daily basis, and neither can you.

You can only bubble with one other person. It’s primarily to help support those who live alone.

And for example, a married couple with 2 kids can’t bubble with another couple.

It’s for single people/single parents of young children’s benefit.

So a couple with kids can bubble with an elderly single relative.

A single parent can bubble with another single parent etc.

Some people mistakenly think you can bubble with 6 people!

This misinterpretation of “bubbles” gets my goat. You must know she’s flouting the rules OP!

www.gov.uk/guidance/making-a-support-bubble-with-another-household

People love the support bubble idea. Unfortunately many seem to love twisting it to fit what they want it to mean.

She can’t join your bubble.

You can meet her outdoors but that’s it.