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Looking at the 'stockpiling' threads..

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EinsteinaGogo · 04/10/2020 19:05

Is there genuinely ANYONE who could afford to get a couple of weeks shopping into the house, who hasn't?

And if so, WHY?

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Mondaymanic · 04/10/2020 22:00

Why would you stockpile. I find this concept really wierd. There is plenty in the shops and even when there wasn't... (looroll gate march 2020), I still managed to get some and never went a day with nothing to wipe my ass Grin

StanfordPines · 04/10/2020 22:03

I’d like someone to explain to me how have two packets of pasta in the cupboard, when there is plenty in the shops, is depriving pensioners of shopping. It’s the opposite.

Right now there is plenty of everything. If I keep a couple of weeks food in stock, because I have the money and the space, then if it all goes wrong again then I don’t need to go to the shops. This means that people who can’t do this for whatever reason can still shop. I’m not in the shops so other people can be.

notso · 04/10/2020 22:03

Stockpiling is not necessarily selfish, in fact it can be the opposite. It’s such a shame that some people just don’t seem to be able to grasp the difference between prepping and panic buying.

So, one more try:

Group A:
People who routinely buy a few extra non perishable items each time and rotate these so they use up the oldest items first. Eventually, having done this over a very long period of time, they will have a few weeks buffer of non perishables. They keep this up, ensuring their buffer is maintained whilst never buying more than a small number of extra items at any one time

Group B:
People who may or may not keep anything extra in the house at any time but who, when suddenly faced with a period of uncertainty (eg, bad weather, Brexit delays, pandemics) rush out to the shops and buy several weeks worth or more of whatever they can get their hands on in one go.

Group C
People who cannot afford to buy anything extra in when they shop.

Group A are preppers. They have a stockpile. Stockpiling is not a bad thing if your stockpile has been built up gradually over a sustained period of time. These people are not part of the problem, in fact, their long term stockpiling is actually helpful to Group C people as Group A people are not in the shops trying to buy even a small amount when it’s in short supply. The fact that a group A person bought extra pasta or loo roll in October 2019 has absolutely no bearing on someone finding the pasta or loo roll aisle empty in March 2020.

Group B people are panic buyers. They are entirely different to preppers. Their stockpile is not even a stockpile as such. A stockpile is something that has built up over a period of time in anticipation of shortages. Panic buyers do not anticipate. Panic buyers wait until there are shortages or the event that threatens the supply chain (bad weather, Brexit, pandemic) has actually happened to buy their extras. They absolutely are the problem and massively disadvantage Group C people by stripping the shelves.

Then there are group D people. They don’t stockpile. They could afford to build up a bit of a buffer but they loftily declare there is no need. There never would be any need if only everyone just bought what they needed when they need it. They cannot differentiate between Preppers and Panic Buyers, despite constantly having it explained to them. They blame Group As for disadvantaging Group Cs even though they themselves are the ones competing for the same bag of pasta as Group C. Meanwhile the Group As are at home eating the pasta they bought six months ago.

Hmm I know the difference between prepping and panic buying, that is the reason I don't have a stockpile of stuff right now.
We haven't always been in the financial position we're in now, there hasn't been the funds to build up a store cupboard slowly.
However because we're now fortunate enough to not have to rely on certain staples so just like the prepper upthread we didn't need to buy any canned goods or pasta for example when stocks were low. We were able to buy whatever was in plentiful supply.

I don't blame preppers for causing supply issues, but I don't think it helps in a time of uncertainty for those who have built up surplus responsibly to urge those who haven't to start, which stockpilers on MN seem to love to do.

Zeebeezee · 04/10/2020 22:04

Do what works for you.

But some of this prepping is obsessive. Still if it works if you and you have lots of storage go for it.

Wasn't necessary so far. Was it?

Wheneverwhereve · 04/10/2020 22:04

@CrappleUmble it’s implicit throughout. And this will be my last response to you as this interaction is as much sense and use as a chocolate fireguard.

Yesthesearemymonkeys · 04/10/2020 22:05

@ghostee

The reality is if people start wanting a stockpile as a snap decicion and they want it not then they aren't being organised. They're shelf clearing and panic buying.

So the preppers who said they used their Brexit supply in March & are now trying to restock what are they?

Well, as I said earlier, I’ve been prepping for Brexit for the last four years by buying a small amount extra each week. I avoided buying anything for the most difficult three weeks of the Covid panic, other than slightly less than normal supplies of fresh produce, freeing up what I would have otherwise bought. Since then I’m just shopping as normal. Not disadvantaging anyone and the shops have been able to restock anyway. I still have supplies - maybe not quite as much as pre Covid but enough that I won’t have to join in the sadly inevitable bun-fight in January.
HollywoodHandshake · 04/10/2020 22:05

Why would you stockpile.
why wouldn't you? Confused

I am amazed by all these posters who have never been sick in their life with children to feed, who are never so busy they can stroll to the supermarket every day or couple of days, who never have friends staying over for diner without much notice, who have never heard of the banks cock ups when credit cards suddenly stopped working, who have never witnessed a power cut in their town stopping all the tills (true story too...)

Who has the energy to deal with another mental load and need to constantly buy supplies. If nothing else, having enough to avoid the ridiculous queues pre-lockdown is bliss.

Itawapuddytat · 04/10/2020 22:05

@Applesandpears23

Until I had kids I usually bought food a few days at a time. After kids I liked to have a weeks food in the cupboards. I upped that considerably before the first potential brexit date. Since then if we eat something in my stash I replace it when I do the next online shop. At the peak last time we didn’t get a food shop for 3 weeks and we were fine. I built our stores back up and plan to keep them built up unless something becomes unavailable.
We have done exactly the same. We slowly built the stash before the first potential Brexit date, kept rotating the stuff, used and replaced gradually, only a bit at a time in the last few months as well. I am aware we are lucky to have the space and the finances to afford it (even though I spent no more than £5-£7 extra for each shop when we originally built our stash at the beginning of 2019). We only bought stuff we use, so we have never had to throw away anything.

The whole combination of Coronavirus, possible self isolation, being self employed (so no regular earnings, there are months when there's more money coming in and months when there is less) and Brexit does not make me feel at ease and therefore I would rather have about 3 weeks worth of supplies in the house. Especially as we have no family or close friends living nearby to do our shopping and during the last lockdown supermarket deliveries were prioritised for vulnerable people.

Poppinjay · 04/10/2020 22:06

even when there wasn't... (looroll gate march 2020), I still managed to get some and never went a day with nothing to wipe my ass grin

I have friends who were using pieces of fabric until I gave them a couple of loo rolls.

I don't want to have to queue for hours to shop in half empty shops or have to change what we eat to what we can get. I was very grateful for that in March when I didn't have to go shopping until everything had calmed down. Is that very difficult to understand?

HollywoodHandshake · 04/10/2020 22:06

They blame Group As for disadvantaging Group Cs even though they themselves are the ones competing for the same bag of pasta as Group C. Meanwhile the Group As are at home eating the pasta they bought six months ago.

Grin
olderwhynotwiser · 04/10/2020 22:08

It's amazing how many people are not stockpiling, never stockpiled last time and wouldn't dream of stockpiling Grin Yet there are undoubtedly times when certain areas of the supermarkets are short of stock. There definitely seems to be a feeling of 'it isn't me it's all those others'. I know of more than one person who bought an extra freezer at this time, yet had never been necessary before; and shops did report a sudden unexpected surge in freezer sales.

ghostee · 04/10/2020 22:09

@Poppinjay why would I need help? I've already said I don't feel the need. There's conflicted messages on this thread & you yourself replied to my question with I guess it was fine. I'm just curious where the boundaries are?

ghostee · 04/10/2020 22:10

clearly it's quiet arbitrary

HollywoodHandshake · 04/10/2020 22:10

Until recently, people who didn't plan at all and went shopping with a toddler sick with chicken pox or D&V were frown upon.

Funny how things change, but in real life you'd still be pissed off to catch a bug because someone didn't plan for last-minute surprises whilst they could have easily done so...

Poppinjay · 04/10/2020 22:10

I'm just curious where the boundaries are?

Who says there are boundaries to find?

ghostee · 04/10/2020 22:13

@Yesthesearemymonkeys so what about the people who didn't start 4 yrs ago & started now?

CrappleUmble · 04/10/2020 22:14

[quote Wheneverwhereve]@CrappleUmble it’s implicit throughout. And this will be my last response to you as this interaction is as much sense and use as a chocolate fireguard.[/quote]
If it's as much sense and use as a chocolate fireguard, that's because your entire stance is total nonsense.

RHOBHfan · 04/10/2020 22:15

If buying extra is contributing to clearing the shelves and depriving other people its panic buying. There were toilet roll shortages for a couple of weeks in March, by mid April there were plenty of toilet rolls for everyone. HTH

So, by that logic, one person buying one extra one week isn’t panic buying.

But the next week they are. But only if everyone else is doing it.

🤨🤨

No, surprisingly that doesn’t help at all. 😂🤣

ghostee · 04/10/2020 22:15

@Poppinjay who says there isn't? There are 3 groups (according to this thread) stockpilers, preppers & panic buyers. Surely there are some boundaries to define the differences between them?

Dashel · 04/10/2020 22:16

I live very rurally and about 4 miles to the nearest shop and 4 miles back. I have a very fussy cat and also live off grid. I need to be a bit of a prepper in case of snow. We have full cupboards and diesel for the generator and water in case our water plant goes wrong.

I prep for winters and thankfully when Covid hit I had enough in I could cancel online shopping so others could use the slots. I was also able to donate food to a local charity to hand out. Prepping isn’t a last minute panic buying spree, it’s buying products that keep and using them without waste.

Panic buying is not ideal as you buy products without properly considering if you can use them, store them or need them and regardless of this, the change in shopping habits of millions of panic buyers causes huge issues in the supply chain. However buying a few extra items all the time amongst preppers when it’s not Covid crazy is normal. People have been doing this for a while, just not as many people buying as many quantities as with Covid times.

ghostee · 04/10/2020 22:17

And this will be my last response to you as this interaction is as much sense and use as a chocolate fireguard

Or is it because you can't justify your stance when challenged?

MillieEpple · 04/10/2020 22:18

I think the boundaries are if you have more than me in stock you are clearly over prepared and bordering on lunacy and if you have less than me in stock you are clearly illprepared and foolhardy (if you have the same means and space as I). Its really obvious. Grin

Acrasia · 04/10/2020 22:18

I find these threads fascinating, particularly because it reminds me how different things are back home in the UK. It was a bank holiday here in Germany yesterday, which means all supermarkets have been closed for the entire weekend. I definitely have a well stocked pantry now!

Poppinjay · 04/10/2020 22:19

Surely there are some boundaries to define the differences between them?

As you're so keen to have them, why don't you define them?

ghostee · 04/10/2020 22:20

@MillieEpple clearly!

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