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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To think the majority of mumsnet is left wing?

58 replies

raingoaway7 · 03/10/2020 03:32

YABU - Yes
YANBU - No

OP posts:
MrsToothyBitch · 03/10/2020 07:09

In the main, I would say it's more left wing, although that may be because people are louder about their leftist leanings than those on the right. As in life, I find. There's a quiet, right leaning rump on here when you ask the right questions and make them feel safe to come forward!

TheFuckingDogs · 03/10/2020 07:24

Certainly on brexit MN was vastly a remain platform. I think It’s probably generally left leaning but centrist with a good smattering of economically minded yet fair old fashioned tories.
It’s certainly not an arena for trump/Boris/daily mail types although they’re creeping in and I agree with a pp that some of the racism on here in recent times has been appalling

Grumpyoldpersonwithcats · 03/10/2020 07:45

I'm confused. Confused
Does voting 'AIBU' mean
I think the majority of mumsnet is left wing

*OR
I think you (OP) are unreasonable to think the majority of mumsnet is left wing?

MollyButton · 03/10/2020 07:50

My DC always tell me how Right wing Mumsnet is - and that is widely seen as the truth! (I couldn't work out your voting BTW).

Smileyaxolotl1 · 03/10/2020 07:51

It’s more left wing in a visible way but it may well be equal or even right wing in terms of who read it.
Just like Twitter it’s the left who shout the loudest.
Also people on the right are often scared to post due to the arrogance of the left who consider themselves morally superior. Why say you are right wing when in many threads you will immediately be accused of being racist, selfish or ignorant?

Iggly · 03/10/2020 07:52

Yup, and it's worrying

Why?

I don’t think it’s possible to tell because it depends on the thread.

I don’t think people fully take the time to understand and appreciate what being left or right wing means. They just get all silly and think left = communism right = nazi.

Lazy thinking.

Iggly · 03/10/2020 07:53

Also people on the right are often scared to post due to the arrogance of the left who consider themselves morally superior.

^exhibit 1

Ginfordinner · 03/10/2020 07:54

@Onpause

Yup, and it's worrying
Why?

I would find it far more worrying if everyone was a Boris supporter.

frumpety · 03/10/2020 07:56

I think it largely depends what you mean by left wing ? Most people I know are left of centre or right of centre, very few are hard left or right.

A lot also depends on the subject being discussed !

Gobbycop · 03/10/2020 07:58

Nothing hugely wrong with that.

Apart from those with lefty views that thinks everyone else is a nazi if they share a different opinion.

Waxonwaxoff0 · 03/10/2020 07:58

I'm very left wing. I find Mumsnet fairly left wing until it comes to a single mum claiming benefits, then there's a pile on of how lazy she is.

I don't really get the outrage over so called "champagne socialism" though. I'm working class and I live in a quite poor factory town in the midlands which has shifted to a Conservative stronghold over the years. I'd prefer champagne socialism to the Daily Mail views that I hear a lot where I live.

fellrunner85 · 03/10/2020 08:01

It feels right wing on here to me.

Not BNP far-right, clearly, but the more centrist, Home Counties-types who vote Tory (or Lib Dem if they're feeling rebellious that day); send their kids to private school or else move to the "naice" areas if they can't afford it; fancy Rishi Sunak a bit; and think Priti Patel might have a point on people seeking asylum.

frumpety · 03/10/2020 08:03

I think It’s probably generally left leaning but centrist with a good smattering of economically minded yet fair old fashioned tories.

@TheFuckingDogs put it better than me Smile

Smileyaxolotl1 · 03/10/2020 08:07

fellrunner

That’s not at all what I’ve seen on here.
True about Home Counties and Waitrose kind of things but there have been many threads with people being horrible about Priti Patel with one or two lone dissenters.

northbacchus · 03/10/2020 08:28

@Onpause

Yup, and it's worrying
Why does it worry you?
TheFuckingDogs · 03/10/2020 08:28

😀 thank you, my brain is weirdly in gear this morning!

Mittens030869 · 03/10/2020 08:41

I don’t find it particularly left wing, except when it comes to Brexit. Mostly, there’s a healthy variety of views expressed on political threads, which I appreciate.

2fallsagain · 03/10/2020 08:43

What do you actually mean by that though?. I think the concept of left and right is becoming pretty meaningless.

ChazP · 03/10/2020 08:46

@Mypathtriedtokillme

A few years ago I would of been thought of as a moderate centrist but now the right wing has shifted soooo far right that anything else is left wing.
Exactly this.
paintmywholehousepink · 03/10/2020 08:49

Most sane people are X

EmmaGrundyForPM · 03/10/2020 08:54

I think it depends on your political view. I'm left wing and feel that MN posters tend towards the right wing. I suspect if you are right wing you would think the majority of posters are left wing.

Packingsoapandwater · 03/10/2020 09:03

It really depends on what you mean by "left wing".

I always find it a little strange when people assume an "anti-benefit" stance is right-wing, because it was a common and encouraged attitude towards non-workers who survived on state funds in both Soviet Russia and "socialist" Poland.

Indeed, in every communist or socialist state I've looked at, state ideology enforced work as a fundamental social and political behaviour. Even if the work was meaningless or pointless, or involved doing bugger all, you still had to turn up. Otherwise, you were an enemy of the people and the socialist/communist system.

I mean, come on, Marxist thought pivots around the figure of the worker and the concept of labour creating value. You can't be a Marxist and accept the notion that able-bodied adults should be able to live off the labour of others; that's kind of the point of the original critique of capitalism.

What I see a lot of on mn is a kind of modern liberal code of equality and "niceness" that is a mix of enlightened 19th century philanthropic attitudes (that owe a fair bit to the filtering down of noblesse oblige as a class signal), mixed with a bit of old Methodism, and filtered through the demands of a 20th century post-industrial social democracy. It's a kind of mutant child of lots of bits of stuff, and fundamentally evolved because the approach is one of the only ways to perceive modern British society without advocating for too much upheaval.

Smileyaxolotl1 · 03/10/2020 09:09

packing
That’s really interesting. But doesn’t really appear to fit most modern Marxists who seem to be more likely to be trust fund funded elites than union firebrands.

Livelovebehappy · 03/10/2020 09:11

Definitely. I’m more centre right, but it’s always interesting to read different view points. There’s some very educated interesting posts from some left wing posters, and I sometimes have my mind changed on certain issues after reading them.

Smileyaxolotl1 · 03/10/2020 09:12

Iggly
What do you mean by exhibit A? Are you applying that by one right wing poster commenting mumsnet is not left wing? Or that my comments about left wing people considering themselves superior are untrue?

If the latter I would like to draw your attention to the poster above who has implied that right wing people are actually insane...

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