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To think what's happening to student is discrimination against poorer young people.

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Feelingconfused2020 · 26/09/2020 00:10

Students are young, in many cases just 18 yet many are being asked to isolate in a room for 2 weeks with issues around access to food and no real friends or family around them (because they've just got there and live with strangers) arguably prison is a safer place as at least food supply is guaranteed. In Scotland they've already been told they won't be allowed home at Christmas which is beyond absurd.

So what is going to happen? Inevitably families with enough money will encourage their young people to drop out and take a gap year. Those who can't afford to do so will be stuck at uni. The poorest suffer most, as covid seems to prefer.

It's not ok for Nicola Sturgeon, and other leaders, to stand by and let this happen, there will be suicides, there will be incidents related to mental health issues.

The governments all needed to have predicted this would be an issue, they should have put more strategies in place as they have in schools.

I am so cross for young adults in this country, they have been completely disregarded by all our governments.

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Hopoindown31 · 26/09/2020 18:40

They will be fine people if they don't isolate when asked to. Universities can probably chuck students out anyway.

They may well do. The question is whether it is legal. The point being that it is not within the new laws or guidelines to forceably lockdown a block of flats because some residents have tested positive for COVID. There could be some expensive legal bills for universities and the police if they have got this wrong.

jellybaby1 · 26/09/2020 18:40

I promise you prison is not safe,in any way shape or form. I would rather be hungry and safe than in prison.

jelly79 · 26/09/2020 18:40

My daughter has just turned 18 and has moved to uni. She is a medical student and in a bubble.

I am glad she has been able to move because she was so excited although I am pissed off that they have been permitted to move to halls, with no uni to go to and now have to lock down! This is about the rental revenue and uni fees! They should of staged / postponed campus living if studies were to be online

notasportymum · 26/09/2020 18:58

I'm not going to say how I know just to satisfy someone on an anonymous public internet forum.

Local private landlords are one thing, a giant contractor invited to spend millions building on campuses to assist a university growth is another type of 'landlord' entirely.

swimster01 · 26/09/2020 19:03

I don't agree it is discrimination against poorer young people but I agree that students are being badly treated.

Belladonna12 · 26/09/2020 19:06

They may well do. The question is whether it is legal. The point being that it is not within the new laws or guidelines to forceably lockdown a block of flats because some residents have tested positive for COVID. There could be some expensive legal bills for universities and the police if they have got this wrong.

In what way are they forcibly locking down though? They obviously aren't allowed to lock the door or arrest them for trying to leave. Depending on the contracts students have signed they could be asked to leave University though. In a couple of days, police will be able to fine people if they have been told to self isolate.

Belladonna12 · 26/09/2020 19:08

@notasportymum

I'm not going to say how I know just to satisfy someone on an anonymous public internet forum.

Local private landlords are one thing, a giant contractor invited to spend millions building on campuses to assist a university growth is another type of 'landlord' entirely.

Okay. I'll assume it's all hearsay.
notasportymum · 26/09/2020 19:16

belladonna12 30 years of 'hearsay' GrinGrin. Quite a career. I won't make assumptions about you because I'm not a twat.

But OK fine you're right the universities are ethical and moral strongholds and in this situation they've shown nothing but integrity and set an example of how it should be done. Satisfied?

Ours has a local rep for faculty bedhopping and extra-marital shenanigans too but it'll be fine as long as the clever, rich Chinese keep turning up.

Belladonna12 · 26/09/2020 19:30

@notasportymum

belladonna12 30 years of 'hearsay' GrinGrin. Quite a career. I won't make assumptions about you because I'm not a twat. But OK fine you're right the universities are ethical and moral strongholds and in this situation they've shown nothing but integrity and set an example of how it should be done. Satisfied?

Ours has a local rep for faculty bedhopping and extra-marital shenanigans too but it'll be fine as long as the clever, rich Chinese keep turning up.

What is bedhopping got to do with anything .You are not actually proving that you know what you're talking about.
SueEllenMishke · 26/09/2020 20:06

Ours has a local rep for faculty bedhopping and extra-marital shenanigans too but it'll be fine as long as the clever, rich Chinese keep turning up.

Of course it does ......

prettybird · 26/09/2020 20:10

Ds is going into 3rd year/Junior Honour year. He's been in a private flat with another guy who's doing the same degree as him since June last year - paying his own rent over the summer months (as opposed to via his student loan during term time). He's not complained - even though he was made redundant from his part-time job just as Covid started (fortunately got a decent redundancy package).

He's a bit peeved about all his courses now being virtual (one of them - Research Methods - was going to have some face-to-face but will now all be on-line) but he's being mature and pragmatic about it.

He's more peeved about being restricted from going to pubs - but even there, he acknowledges that it's only for a weekend.

But because he's in his Junior Honours year, what's most important to him is his studies and he's realised he has a helluva lot of reading to do - and his rugby for "down" time Wink

He'd spent the lockdown up in his flat on his own (his flat mate went home) as he likes his independence and only came home for a month when lockdown was relaxed late June.

Everyone is being affected in different ways - and coping to different extents. We just need to be there as sounding boards and backstop support. Modern technology makes things easier as we are able to "talk" regularly - it would have been much worse without that.

CorianderLord · 26/09/2020 22:48

Order food online like other people do? They're not going to starve... if they really can't get food they will just go to the shop.

CorianderLord · 26/09/2020 22:50

Also who doesn't use public transport? All of us in London have had to use it through the pandemic it's hardly a big deal.

Mask on, gloves on, sanitise when possible, keep distant.

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