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Pubs to shut at 10

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Pixxie7 · 21/09/2020 22:58

According to news night 1 of the measures is to close pubs and restaurants at 10pm. I really can’t see this making any real difference, and it’s just delaying the inevitable?

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DustyLoafer · 21/09/2020 23:03

I agree, won't make much difference.

Timeforanotherusername · 21/09/2020 23:04

I think they should limit the sale of alcohol after 10pm too

Givemeabreakpls · 21/09/2020 23:04

I can’t see this making a blind bit of difference.

edwinbear · 21/09/2020 23:05

Seems completely pointless, they shut at 11pm normally don’t they? What difference will closing an hour earlier make?

Givemeabreakpls · 21/09/2020 23:06

I’d be interested to see the modelling behind this decision...if indeed there is any.

JovialNickname · 21/09/2020 23:06

Hmm yes as we all know the virus only spreads after 10 pm?!

Gettingthereslowly2020 · 21/09/2020 23:07

I don't understand this either. Won't people just go to the pub earlier instead?

strawberrysandpecans · 21/09/2020 23:07

Just for the headlines probably - to look like they're doing something when really they're putting the economy first

CoRhona · 21/09/2020 23:07

Don't you know that covid 19 only transmits between 10 and 11pm?

Very wise decision by our wonderful government.

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divafever99 · 21/09/2020 23:09

Can't see the sense in this at all. Surely if people want to spend longer in the pub they will just go in earlier?

OhTheRoses · 21/09/2020 23:10

It will reduce the transmission of the virus during waking hours which can't be a bad thing. If people are in pubs from, say, 7pm to 11pm usually then that reduces a major transmission opportunity by 25% for those people. It's about reducing socialising isn't it?

ShatnersWig · 21/09/2020 23:10

Pointless. Be interesting to see what else is announced tomorrow. Frankly, if they want to stop the rate increasing, they will have to as, a minimum, stop households mixing indoors with the exception of single folk with a support bubble. I gather childcare is going to be exempt from any restriction of this type.

Gancanny · 21/09/2020 23:14

Here in North East England we've already got 10pm closing as part of the local lockdown, along with table service only.

I was speaking to the landlady of our local pub in the yard this morning and she said that it hasn't made a bit of difference. She calls last orders at 9.30 and said she still had to chase groups of people out the door at 10pm. They all took their drinks out with them and sat in the garden area. They were still there when the staff left at 10.45 and she ended up having to ring the police to move them on. She said this has been the case every night of this weekend. She also said that even with table service she's having to tell people to stay at their tables unless they're going to the loo or outside for a smoke, she's had to ask people to leave for ignoring the rules about visiting other tables.

As usual for this government, it's a half-arsed measure to make it try and appear that they're taking action when really it's totally ineffective in reality.

OrigamiOwl · 21/09/2020 23:14

@edwinbear

Seems completely pointless, they shut at 11pm normally don’t they? What difference will closing an hour earlier make?

All the nightclubs around here have transformed into "speakeasy" venues... Basically pubs that are licenced until 3/4am so plenty of places have still being doing late night opening.

QueenOllie · 21/09/2020 23:16

The pubs are shut in Bolton and that doesn't seem to be making a blind bit of difference so I can't see 10pm doing, well, anything

lhmua12 · 21/09/2020 23:17

I don’t really see the logic either

Obbydoo · 21/09/2020 23:20

There was a guy on the news tonight that said it had reduced his trade in a North East pub by 70%. That's a pretty significant impact but let's not let the truth get in the way of a good argument.

FecktheBoss · 21/09/2020 23:24

Lots of people only go out at around 9-10pm so some wont go out at all, reducing contact. Possibly not the numbers that will make a massive difference in infection rates but it will help.

The last hour or so, tends to be topping up alcohol levels which means it's more likely that someone will fall over, fracture or break a bone. This takes at least 6 weeks, longer if physio needed or not a clean break. In 6-8 weeks time, if things dont change the NHS will be breaking point and wont need additional pressures etc.

although it seems like paying lip service, it will have an impact, possibly not as big as people would prefer but it's better than not doing it at all.

pigsDOfly · 21/09/2020 23:25

Maybe the thinking behind it is that people will have less time in the pub, so less likely to get so drunk, being less drunk, they're more likely to keep to social distancing. Otherwise can't see any point to it.

Isn't that why they started closing pubs at 10.30 during one of the wars - can't remember if it was ww1 or 2 - in order to try to cut down on drunkenness?

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Pixxie7 · 21/09/2020 23:26

Obbydoo@ it probably will affect the economy, but I thought the aim is to reduce transmission.

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Abendintheriver · 21/09/2020 23:26

Surely people will just go back to each others houses which is worse?! Seems odd to me

jakeyboy1 · 21/09/2020 23:28

Against the grain but I can see some logic here. Allows people to go out responsibly before everyone's pissed and jumping into each other? Stops problems in late night bars as with the 25-30 group where there has been an issue.

(And I generally disagree with most of the measures).

twilightermummy · 21/09/2020 23:32

They need to put a curfew on what time they’re releasing information.

Hiccupiscal · 21/09/2020 23:32

@Abendintheriver

Surely people will just go back to each others houses which is worse?! Seems odd to me

Back to each others houses, or drink earlier/quicker because "The pub shuts at 10pm"

I don't see what difference it makes either. A local to me shuts at 10:30pm. Always has been, and always will be hoards of drunks coming out of there, despite its 'earlier' close time than others!

Gancanny · 21/09/2020 23:32

There was a guy on the news tonight that said it had reduced his trade in a North East pub by 70%. That's a pretty significant impact but let's not let the truth get in the way of a good argument

And yet all the bars along Osbourne Road in Jesmond have been heaving for much of the weekend and Wetherspoons in the local shopping centre was having to turn people away as they were at capacity.

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