To dislike it when people say they are pissed (in the UK)

[Chamomileteaplease]

when they are annoyed about something.

Isn't that an Americanism? In the UK we say pissed off surely?

Or is there a regional variation that I am unaware of?

I feel the same about the use of the word poop.

@Ohyeahs
Gotten isn’t American

I always thought it was, where does it originate from?

It's the original participle of "get". First used in British English, then taken to America half a millennium ago.
British English morphed it into "got" about 100 years ago.

I don't see people getting riled up about the use of 'pyjamas' being a 'Hindi-ism'

Could that be because we British did not have a word for those garments before we started using them in UK, having seen them first in India? (Likewise jodhpurs)?

Also, someone upthread said gotten wasn't an Americanism - it wasn't originally as it was used in English here a very long time ago, definitely not in my or my grandparents' lifetime and I am quite old. It did not survive the passage of time here as our language adapted. Anyone using it now is doing so because they first heard (or read) it used by Americans, so I would class it as an Americanism in this context.

@TheSeedsOfADream thanks, thats interesting.
Ashamed to say I'd always wince when its said as I assumed it wasn't grammatically correct but now I know better!
Quite fascinating how the english language has evolved differently.

Sunshineonarainydayy, it's been explained. Both the Queen and Maggie Smith us it, so it's good enough for me. But I probably use it because my GM (born 1910) always did.

Did you think that it was just valid when used in Forgotten?

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Brit living in the usa for 20 years here - I just avoid using "I'm pissed" because it sounds silly (like I'm trying desperately hard to fit in), plus to me it still means drunk).

It doesn't help that in Britain you can still hear "pissed as a newt/fart", which reinforce the drunk meaning.

I agree with whoever said that it makes you feel like you're waiting for the final word to come.

The "off" does make it much easier to use as a verb.

I'm pissed means drunk.
Pissed off means angry.
If someone is pissy then they are being an arse.

@Chamomileteaplease The whole series is very entertaining, the episode regarding americanisms is 'scurryfunge'

spoons123 romeolovedjulliet I should have explained my Midwesternism about coastals, I'm still just that used to using it. It's similar to how some in less represented areas of the UK refer to southerners or London or maybe posh, but in the part of the US I'm from, 'a coastal' refers to someone well off from the West Coast and most of the New England and Northeast side from DC up that isn't part of Appalachia.

Every part of the US divides the country up differently, but coastals tend to divide it between those parts of the coast and the rest.
They're the places most often shown in US media and have the most concentration of powers that impact everyone else and possibly because of that, people from there have a reputation of viewing large parts of the country as 'flyover states' that are very unimportant for them to know about and that they know best about what everyone else needs, what they should think, and similar.

Both the US political parties have a major issue with coastals being their main voices who either ignore or talk down to large parts of the country. Sadly, Trump was able to capitalize on that resentment (either in wanting more of those economic benefits and powers spread out or wanting to left alone) even though he is a very exaggerated version of the coastal stereotype - dismissive of others, patronizing & won't admit to being wrong, a lying ass-kisser if it's profitable, brash & arrogant and flip-flops his values & opinions as the breeze blows. Some would also view them as shallow & vain, though I think the Midwest and coastals are about even when it comes putting reputation before actual action.

I mean the biggest problem with expecting people to get the difference between pissed angry and pissed drunk right now as that it does not translate well without the facial expressions, and those are hard to show with a mask on or over Zoom

It’s not as annoying as someone saying “can I get” when in a shop or cafe. It sounds ridiculous. I hate Americanisms.

@TheSeedsOfADream do you have any examples of early usage of pissed in British English? Not saying I don't believe you, I am genuinely interested. I knew of words like 'fall' and 'highway' than were originally British, then US retained them whereas we started referring to 'autumn' and 'motorway' instead, but I have never read pissed to mean angry in British literature and I've read a lot of classic novels/older non fiction.

I don't usually get too annoyed at americanisms coming over here, but two separate people on my social media referred to getting bangs yesterday and that did piss me off for some reason - IT'S A FRINGE!!!

I fully admit to having some bias here. I sort of agree that overt use of americanism's for coolness (erm don't think that phrase is remotely acceptable to young people anymore so showing my age there) but there are the slight oddities that have genuine reason so give us a break. I grew up in America and learnt to speak there. However I have a fully English accent but the odd word pops out and pissed is one of them.

I realise that isn't a massively common issue but I have sympathy for some. I accidentally use americanism's because I was taught them first. You tube speak should be banned though ...unbelievably annoying

@DeeTractor

"And this is nothing like an American bashing thread"

Give it time.

And just before they start coming up over and over:
"Can I get" isn't American
"Gotten" isn't American
Halloween and Santa aren't American
And there are parts of the UK where the word "mom" is used.

It's still nothing like an American bashing thread.

Of course not.

I usually find it's easy to understand what someone means from the context they say it in. I'm British, live in the UK, grew up in America, my best friend is American but I met her over here because she is married to a British guy. They now live in America. We all understand each other perfectly! Language evolves as people travel and move around. We all understand what we mean when someone says they are pissed. Never been a big deal.

English is so rich in euphemism, metaphor and slang that it's a shame to lose any of it imo.

I wonder if there's a UK English Preservation Society? If not, someone should really start one.

@LakieLady there probably is. I really recommend Susie dents podcast - something rhymes with purple, so interesting, my vocabulary has definitely expanded!

Glad to see I'm not the only one with an irrational dislike for encroaching Americanisms!

See also: vacations, mom, movies, awesome, break room. And many more that I can't think of at the moment.

@JenniferSantoro

It’s not as annoying as someone saying “can I get” when in a shop or cafe. It sounds ridiculous. I hate Americanisms.

Yeah, can't stand that one. Or "Would you like some more coffee?" "No, I'm good." I didn't ask you if you were 'good'...

Another one I've noticed is "Where are you at?" instead of just "Where are you?" Contrast with 'stay home' which has been a very fashionable phrase of late, even though the normal British usage would be 'stay at home'.

Thanks, BiBabbles - who would have thought so much could be conveyed with the word 'coastal'!

My teenager says this and I add 'off' for her! It irritates me and makes me feel old in equal measures. Probably due to what teenagers are watching on TV or seeing on social media from America.