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To be really sick of the term (xyz) community.

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Tinkerbell456 · 14/09/2020 22:44

Y’know, maybe this is magical thinking, but can’t we all be one community? Why do we have to be divided into LGBTI, Black, White, AsIan etc. It’s my view that all these groups have a great deal to offer to the communities in which they live. Why do we focus on what divides us instead of what unites us, not least being human? I can understand that people who share a common characteristic are drawn together, but it seems there is an excessive focus on grievances and anger. People seem to be very caught up in one aspect of their identity sometimes, it seems to me, at the expense of other aspects of their lives.

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Elsewyre · 15/09/2020 18:56

@Tinkerbell456

Y’know, maybe this is magical thinking, but can’t we all be one community? Why do we have to be divided into LGBTI, Black, White, AsIan etc. It’s my view that all these groups have a great deal to offer to the communities in which they live. Why do we focus on what divides us instead of what unites us, not least being human? I can understand that people who share a common characteristic are drawn together, but it seems there is an excessive focus on grievances and anger. People seem to be very caught up in one aspect of their identity sometimes, it seems to me, at the expense of other aspects of their lives.
Cause quite frequently all these "comunities" fucking hate each other and want to harm each other.

Humans are deep down under all our neurosis just really stupid animals.

Also i vaguely remeber hearing 150 ish people is about the maximum that holds cohesion as a group

Linning · 15/09/2020 19:10

@TheDuchessofMalfy

I remember years back in the 90s a character in Eastenders (who was gay) saying “the gay community? Where’s that, on the northern line?” (Or some line, can’t swear it was northern).

It really stuck with me, as it’s quite generalising and even belittling to think of people with a characteristic as a homogeneous group.

I don’t think anyone genuinely believes (bare prejudiced people) that people of similar groups are, think and behave the same. I am part of the LGBTQ+ community, it doesn’t mean I believe we are all one mass, there are plenty of queer people I dislike and disagree with and plenty I like and relate to on a deeper level because obviously, ultimately, we are all individuals, why I feel closer to the queer community than I do the heteronormative one is that while we are different, we have likely gone through similar journeys and experienced similar things that straight people, by default, simply haven’t.

The LGBTQ+ Community is referred as a community not because every single individual who identity under the umbrella is the same but because it regroups people who identify under the same umbrella and likely have some interconnected experiences and have faced some similar issues and it’s (usually) of a benefit to them to be connected and share their experiences or discuss. Most communities (whether black, Asian, Jewish, Latino etc...) usually also share elements of culture that are fairly (though not necessarily solely) proper to them and with which most “members” is likely to identify or recognize.

I never thought of the term “community” as a synonym to “homogeneous” and much more as meaning: “with similar interests/characteristics/life experiences etc...” as I believe was always intended.

ComeOnBabyPopMyBubble · 15/09/2020 19:17

Would you like discrimination laws to disappear too?
What about people being overtly and aggressively-ist to stop being a serious issue,sometimes criminally so?

We're not all equal no matter what you say. We're not treated equally. We're not seen equally. Until that happens people that are discriminated against,suffer from prejudice,abuse etc need their communities,not just for support but for legal protection too.

We're not all one big homogenous ,happy lump. We're just as tribal as the rest of the animal kingdom.

SimonJT · 15/09/2020 19:39

Some people in some communities have specific needs due to being part of that community, so can seek support as those people have experienced similar and can better understand how that person is feeling etc.

I’m in a part of a few communities, as an individual some are important, some not so much.

I’m an adoptive parent, it is completely different to being the experience of biological parents so I have a need to seek other adopters who I know will have similar experiences.

I’m gay, there are things I experience that straight people don’t, so for me being able to access people who have had similar experiences and challenges is important.

I’m Asian, I’m not going to ask someone of another ethnicity when I’m having a specific problem, want a specific item etc if that thing is specific to being Asian. When first styling my sons hair (following kesh) I sought other Sikh parents for tips, why would I seek out non-Sikh parents?

My boyfriend has a physical disability, he is part of a support group that is specific to the disability he has. Other people in that group have had similar experiences growing up etc. Its a place where he doesn’t feel different bodied. He is also on a football team specifically for men with physical disabilities.

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