Can she go to school?

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sorry I know this has been done to death but I can't figure it out.

My ds woke on Monday with a heavy cold including a cough. Kept all dcs home and took him for a test. Self isolated until we got the results which were negative. Everyone back to school Wednesday.
Now today dd14 has woken with the same, now it seems obvious to me she's caught ds's cold but will school see it like that or does she now also need to test and all of us isolate again?

Yanbu ... send her in
Ya u.... test and isolate

You don't need to keep kids off school with sniffles, a blocked nose, a runny nose, a sore throat. If they are well in themselves don't get a Covid test for these symptoms. The government have said half the problem with test demand is that people are getting tests who do not have Covid symptoms.
Obviously if your child is not feeling well with a heavy cold keep them home.
Get a test for a new, continuous cough, a temperature or loss of taste and smell.
Come on. You cannot keep kids off school every two minutes and keep using Covid tests that are not needed for every blocked nose over winter

No one on here has said keep them off for a blocked nose . But a cough, you won't have a choice, the school will send them home. Quite rightly. It really isn't that difficult and I'm appalled that people are arguing this.

I say that as a parent having to isolate whilst waiting results. I'm confident it's a cold. But we all have a moral duty to stick to this. Temp or cough or loss of smell and /or taste and you isolate and test.
I've had kids removed from my lessons as siblings have received a positive test result. Wtf are they in school?! Putting 100s in the bubble at risk of having to close .

*Are you serious? So you wouldn't isolate? I'm sorry if that is particularly hard in your situation, but you would need to book a test asap and hopefully only be isolating for a day or two. You only need to do the above if you have covid symptoms.

If this is a true representation of the British public we are all screwed*

Some people are finding it hard to even get a test at the moment. There have been a lot of threads about this. So in some cases it’s not just 2-3 days. It could be longer.

You may not live in the real world but a lot of families can’t take multiple weeks or days off unpaid several times because they have multiple children and they are getting symptoms one after another.

Bills have to be paid. If it’s a choice between defaulting on the mortgage/bills or working then people will go to work. Specially if one child already had a common cold with a temp and now it’s the 2nd child having the exact same thing but just a week later.

@Potterpotterpotter

*Are you serious? So you wouldn't isolate? I'm sorry if that is particularly hard in your situation, but you would need to book a test asap and hopefully only be isolating for a day or two. You only need to do the above if you have covid symptoms.

If this is a true representation of the British public we are all screwed*

Some people are finding it hard to even get a test at the moment. There have been a lot of threads about this. So in some cases it’s not just 2-3 days. It could be longer.

You may not live in the real world but a lot of families can’t take multiple weeks or days off unpaid several times because they have multiple children and they are getting symptoms one after another.

Bills have to be paid. If it’s a choice between defaulting on the mortgage/bills or working then people will go to work. Specially if one child already had a common cold with a temp and now it’s the 2nd child having the exact same thing but just a week later.

Well let's hope they don't infect someone in the vulnerable category eh?

And yes I know about the testing situation. It's a fucking shambles. That doesn't excuse what you've just said.

And I do live in the real world. Single parent blah blah blah. Except I'm also clinically vulnerable with a vulnerable DC too.

I really hope your dcs' schools are on the ball and refuse them. We will be in full lockdown again the way things are going. Then I'm afraid the income situation will be a hell of a lot worse

@user1471530109 - I don’t feel like Iv said anything wrong. I wasn’t talking about my personal situation.

My income has been unaffected by covid. In fact both me and my partner are non stop working at the moment as things are hectic because of covid. A day off at the moment is like gold dust.

I’m not a single parent but that doesn’t mean I can’t understand why people wouldn’t isolate over and over when bills need paying. Its a choice of putting food on the table or not for some people. Not all work places are sympathetic of repeat isolation.

Some will isolate over and over but others will not and I don’t blame them!

I think there needs to be serious penalties for those not isolating or sending in children with symptoms. It’s not fair to put staff at risk nor the vulnerable children or their family members.

Given the rising case numbers and the cases in schools, along with all those that wouldn’t isolate or would send in sick children I suspect by half term we will be back to schools being closed and remote learning.

I agree that staffs safety is paramount. Also everyone has vulnerable people somewhere in their lives or certainly an awful lot of us do. But our government have failed to put proper systems in place. This means that some people, particularly those who can’t WFH and won’t get paid if they don’t go to work will be placeD in very difficult positions if their child is experiencing most likely a September back to school cold.
I think a lot of people raging about this are able to continue WFH and life doesn’t really change much for them if they have to isolate

I think a lot of people raging about this are able to continue WFH and life doesn’t really change much for them if they have to isolate

Not in my case. My husbands works 2-3 days a week away and has had to cancel these twice in the last few months. I work for out of the house. We haven't stopped working out of the house since throughout the whole thing. It's a massive ball ache having to isolate and cancel work but we're not going to start lying about it. Imagine telling the track and tracers (which is coming into England this month) the reason why you infected half a class and your colleagues.

“It’s a massive ball ache” translation “I have savings, it’s inconvenient but me and my family still have food on the table”

For some people it’s not just a “massive ballache” it’s financial ruin 🤷🏼‍♀️

You won't be able to show the school a negative result for her so they will send her home.

I’m sure the next poster to disagree with me is going to be a one legged single mother who digs the roads for a living who tells me her 10 children have all had vague colds separately over the past few months and the whole family have isolated each and every time and they’ve survived off bread and beans but they’ve done it because they’re not selfish bastards 😏

Also you all have to stay home until negative test.

@TheFuckingDogs

“It’s a massive ball ache” translation “I have savings, it’s inconvenient but me and my family still have food on the table”

For some people it’s not just a “massive ballache” it’s financial ruin 🤷🏼‍♀️

I can understand your point if we were talking 2 weeks isolation every time. But it's a couple of days (yes maybe 3 at the moment).

I assure you I live paycheck to paycheck and am far from the person you are painting here. I also can't wfh. I do however get paid.

I think everyone sympathises with the situation you are painting. But I still think you'd be wrong to not follow these very clear rules. We are talking 100s of people effected by sending in a potentially covid sick child. People could die. We all have to take responsibility over this.

Dogs I have not lived about any of my situation. My posting history will back me up .

*lied

Business will not be able to cope if every cold that turns into a cough means there workforce has to self isolate.

Okay that was harsh of me and I shouldn’t have passed comment/judgement on your personal situation but I do find it really frustrating that people paint anyone who may err on the side of it being a common cold (quite rationally if the sibling just had the same and was negative) as being some reckless twat who wants to kill everyone! The situation is so complex - it’s very easy to pass judgement.
Equally I think anyone who was highly likely to have Covid and particularly anyone who ignored isolation with a positive test is horrendous and putting people’s lives at risk.
Ido think all the back to school cold stuff is such a grey area though and can understand people being financially terrified.

I don’t buy the whole “selfish them” and “selfless us” stuff - we are all complex with many factors to assess, Covid being just one of them

I still think you'd be wrong to not follow these very clear rules

It’s ok to think that when you are still getting paid if you have to isolate. Others are not so lucky and will prioritise putting food on the table.

@Potterpotterpotter

I still think you'd be wrong to not follow these very clear rules

It’s ok to think that when you are still getting paid if you have to isolate. Others are not so lucky and will prioritise putting food on the table.

It doesn't matter what you or I think. Your child won't be allowed in school if coughing whether it be due to a cold or covid. Hth.

Yes but that’s just not true - if it’s hay fever related coughing and you have explained this they probably will be - also apparently 52% of under 16s do not actually present with coughing as a primary symptom of Covid (ZOE STUDY U.K.) and are more likely to experience gastrointestinal stuff than adults with Covid so the coughing as primary symptom stuff goes out the window with kids to an extent

I haven't said it's a primary symptom. And if the hayfever is backed up by GP it won't be a problem. My dd has asthma and the head has already said that they knew she'd have a cough because if that. It was the fact her sister was also coughing that we were asked to get a test.

Of course it is true that you will be sent home for coughing! Along with if you show any of the covid symptoms. I agree these need to be widened, but currently it's the main three.

It's all very well giving reasons why parents won't agree or why they'd struggle. But schools aren't out to cause anyone any trouble. They are trying to keep them open (so many parents can still work and their children get get an education). If they weren't strict, we'd be heading for full lockdown quicker than we are now

@user1471530109 I already said in my first post that my daughter school is accepting siblings in when one has a temp and not had a covid test. So it seems mine will be allowed in school. No need to isolate. HTH.

Pretty sure they are not following any published guidance then! Anyone with symptoms in a household has to isolate. If a school is going against that (England?) then they'd better hope their local authority will back them if someone gets seriously ill or worse. Fingers crossed for you.

Look we can argue all day. If cases keep rising because parents send in ill children, we will be back to the beginning of March before half term. Then all those self employed parents you are standing up for will be in a much worse financial situation.

@user1471530109 oh yeh because you care about all those self employed workers who should stay at home multiple times because you’re vulnerable 😂