Active discussions

Meet the Other Phone. A phone that grows with your child.

Meet the Other Phone.
A phone that grows with your child.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Talk
AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

Original poster

To think there’s going to be a time when we have to just get back to normal and start living with coronavirus

68 replies

Blahbaa · 10/09/2020 07:18

With the recent hiccup with development of a vaccination I’ve started to wonder if there’s going to come a time when we’re going to have to accept people are going to become ill, die and possibly have side effects from coronavirus but we need to work, educate and live. We will in effect have to get back to normal with coronavirus being accepted as something else we can become ill with or die from as we accept other illnesses.
Posted similar in coronavirus page but posing here for more traffic.

OP posts:
KatherineJaneway · 10/09/2020 07:20

Many people already are.

Original poster
Blahbaa · 10/09/2020 07:22

I mean really normal. For example not isolating after coming into contact with a positive case etc.

OP posts:
ChanceChanceChance · 10/09/2020 07:23

@KatherineJaneway

Many people already are.
Which is why cases are rising and more restrictions introduced.

'living with it' means accepting mass deaths. If you're happy with that, start a petition. But be clear about the number of deaths you expect.

mummyoneboy19 · 10/09/2020 07:23

YANBU.

People have become so scared to live. :(

TitianaTitsling · 10/09/2020 07:23

I agree, but batten down the hatches, you're in for several accusations of wanting to wipe out millions of people.

ChanceChanceChance · 10/09/2020 07:23

@Blahbaa

I mean really normal. For example not isolating after coming into contact with a positive case etc.
Well that's stupid.
Manolin · 10/09/2020 07:24

This reply has been deleted

Message deleted by MNHQ. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.

wafflyversatile · 10/09/2020 07:24

How many threads do we need saying this. Let's get back to normal!

If anything we should be using this as an opportunity to think about a new normal. I'm fed up of being urged to prop up an economic model which is unsustainable.

TitianaTitsling · 10/09/2020 07:24

Ah too late.

ChanceChanceChance · 10/09/2020 07:24

@TitianaTitsling

I agree, but batten down the hatches, you're in for several accusations of wanting to wipe out millions of people.
Because no isolating at all would lead to enormous deaths and social breakdown.
Splendidseptember · 10/09/2020 07:25

Probably, but I wouldn't say this moment in time is it. Ie on the cusp of the flu season when, even with vaccinations, the NHS massively struggles!
Let's do our best to get through winter then reassess. A

TitianaTitsling · 10/09/2020 07:25

@Manolin

Not another self-interest Russian Bot
Why does it have to be a Russian bot if people think like this?
IamTomHanks · 10/09/2020 07:26

This is the new normal. Get used to it. Even if we develop a vaccine, our understanding of communicable diseases and their impact has changed, so there is no going back. Masks, more hand-washing, quarantine and self-isolation, are all here to stay.

KeepingPlain · 10/09/2020 07:27

We basically already are. You can go shopping, to the cinema, to the pub, to restaurants, to sports etc. The main thing we can't do is get medical treatment. I wonder why that is? Anyone would think that the tories care more about the economy than our health.

Oh wait... They do. Hmm Just open everything up again, might as well. They don't actually give a shit on how many die because of it, stop pretending Boris.

niceupthedance · 10/09/2020 07:33

I think this is a fantastic opportunity for real change that could benefit actual society not just rich big wigs . I don't want to go back to spending money needlessly, commuting when I don't have to and being a number in the machine...

Also on a personal level I am very much appreciative of increased hygiene measures and hope it helps prevent so many people catching multiple bugs and illnesses every year.

TheoriginalLEM · 10/09/2020 07:37

What is a russian bot??

Tomatoesneedtoripen · 10/09/2020 07:39

i doubt it,
do you want to lose your nearest and dearest?

Rhoobarbandraspberries · 10/09/2020 07:41

Unfortunately I think society will break down anyway with the current erosion of civil liberties (freedom of movement, etc), the economic impact and the polarisation of viewpoints, so realistically those of us that are able would probably just be better off sticking our heads down and ploughing through while those who feel they are vulnerable and are in a position to do so isolate. It’s not an easy decision, but as the government themselves told us right back at the beginning (as an excuse for delaying lockdown) that compliance is relies upon the majority of people having the stamina and appetite to ‘join in’ and I just don’t think that is there any more...

OnlyFoolsnMothers · 10/09/2020 07:41

i think this is a fantastic opportunity for real change that could benefit actual society not just rich big wigs is this what you think covid has done? Sorry to disappoint, the poor have got poorer and Amazon has got richer. There is no economic positive to covid- it has fucked over future generations massively!

As for OPs question, yes this is something we have to live with- when the penny will drop I have no idea!

AnonymouseInHiding · 10/09/2020 07:47

I agree that getting back to normal is our only choice. We have to work to live, our entire society is based on that. Without it we have no future. This cannot go on much longer. And I say that as someone at great statistical risk.

TheoriginalLEM · 10/09/2020 07:49

I think we need to be prepared to take extra precautions during the winter.

I am not clear in my head if it was lockdown and precautions that slowed the spread or the fact that summer is not prime virus climate. We are heading into cold/flu season and the cases are rising again. It just happens to coincide with everything being relaxed.

It may have been more sensible to allow pubs/restaurants to open for outside trade earlier in the year because now its getting colder and increased cases etc they will probably have to close again and wont have had time to re-establish. I worry for them, for many publicans its both partners jobs and their homes at risk.

I cant see a vaccine working, much less, public trust in one.

As pp said, we need to find a new normal.

Wear a mask, yeah its uncomfortable but it might save your life. People questioned seat belts back in the day. It is widely agreed that anyone who doesnt wear a seat belt now is a moron so...

Wash your hands

Dont have massive gatherings in your house that are impossible to socially distance. Be sensible about xmas - if you see your family all the time and there will be more than six of you? So what...nobody cares. If you're inviting all and sundry for a massive banquit.. give yer head a wobble.

Take responsibility for yourself - dont rely on this shot show of a government.

PickACoolUserName · 10/09/2020 07:49

It's endemic now so yes, I agree, we need to learn to live with it. I'm currently isolating with a child who has developed a cough with cold systems. We've had to to take time off work, pull the kids out of school for what I am 99% certain is a cold.

This is not sustainable. It really isn't. At some point, the economic effects will tilt the balance so that more damage is done by the restrictions than from the virus itself. We're already starting to see that in terms of missed cancer appointments etc.

It's sad for the people who will die. But people die every day for lots of reasons and we have apparently forgotten that. Meanwhile dementia patients are spiralling downhill thanks to a lack of social interaction and we have a huge mental health crisis coming our way from the increased levels of anxiety fuelled by hysterical headlines in the media, for a virus that has an estimated IFR of around 0.5%.

We are valuing quantity of life over quality of life.

AnonymouseInHiding · 10/09/2020 07:49

Not another self-interest Russian Bot

F* sake. People think they matter enough that the Russians care about Mumsnet. Hmm

Bagelsandbrie · 10/09/2020 07:54

I think people are already. The whole mask / testing thing just isn’t working in practice.

I spent all of yesterday in A and E with chest pains (long story, I have a chronic long term condition). It’s the first time I have been to A and E during the pandemic, I was in the clinically vulnerable shielding list so I don’t know what I was expecting but it certainly wasn’t what I experienced!- sitting around waiting in crowded corridors, next to many others without real social distancing, people taking masks off to eat and drink, when I got taken up to a ward (with 6 other women) they swabbed me for Covid and then said I could remove my mask (even though they have no idea if I have it or not or if the other women did either as all of them had just come in too- actue medical unit), when one person left the cleaner came in with a fluffy dry feather dusted and whizzed it round everywhere and they remade the bed for a new person....

This is in NO WAY anything against the staff who were all super busy and doing their very best but Christ on a bike Covid is going to spread like wildfire if that’s what happening at a busy city centre main hospital (not London).

I think the government is making the world think it’s putting rules etc in place but in practice this is not happening at all.

midgebabe · 10/09/2020 08:00

Yes the Russians care about mumsnet. Sewing social discontent is one of their aims and mumsnet is a pretty big, rather unique target

However I think the rules are to report if you suspect a Russian or other troll

Swipe left for the next trending thread