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To feel guilty my date paid for my lunch?

60 replies

Poppadumpony · 05/09/2020 22:19

Hi,

Today I went on my first ever ‘online dating’ date! We met for lunch in destination halfway between where we each live, which neither of us knew very well. He said I could choose where to eat, so I picked a cafe google brought up that looked nice.

I ordered first, a meal that with a drink came to around £13. He then ordered a much smaller and cheaper meal that came to about £7. I thought to myself that I would suggest splitting the bill, each paying for what we’d had.

As we got to know each other, I realised that I am in a much higher paying career than he is, not that this matters to me, but it adds to why I feel guilty.

Anyway, while I was in the ladies, he paid the whole bill. I offered to give him half, he declined. I didn’t make a scene and just thanked him.

Anyway he’s said that he really likes me and would like a second date. I liked him as a person, but I didn’t find him that attractive. I feel guilty that if I refuse a second date, it will seem like I have taken advantage of him, by picking an expensive-ish lunch place, lettingg him pay the bill, and then disappearing. I feel as though I owe him at least one last date (where I pick up the bill!) to show I’m not a user?

Am I overthinking? Have I made a mistake here somewhere? What should I do next? Advice welcome. Thanks.

OP posts:
crimsonlake · 06/09/2020 00:37

Sorry but despiie what some posters are saying if the spark is not there on the first date it will never be, trust your first instinct.
You sound very thoughtful, but I agree do not feel beholden.

eurochick · 06/09/2020 00:40

When you say no to the second date you could try offering half again on the basis that you won't have the opportunity to pay second time around.

CokeyCola · 06/09/2020 00:42

Maybe try a second date, but don't let him pay this time or you'll end married while you're still trying to pay him back!

Buggedandconfused · 06/09/2020 00:43

I can’t bear bad teeth in a partner too OP. Don’t feel bad - it’s a deal breaker for many people

hastingsmua1 · 06/09/2020 00:47

I agree with @WarriorsComeOutToPlayay and @crimsonlake

I feel like women are socialised to compromise whilst dating, whereas men aren’t. Poor dental hygiene would be a dealbreaker for me; there’s no point in continuing to date someone you couldn’t imagine being intimate with. So if you can’t see something happening out of this, there’s no point wasting either of your time with a “2nd date for politeness sake.”

He paid when you weren’t present - he didn’t give you the opportunity to pay. He refused your offer of reimbursement. You didn’t take advantage of him at all.

CitizenFame · 06/09/2020 00:54

I don’t agree with the comments pushing you or at least suggesting you should “at least” try one more date when you’ve made it clear you don’t want to.

You didn’t ask him to pay for you and you had every intention of paying for yourself. You told him you would pay for your share once you found out he’d paid and he declined. That’s his choice. And it wasn’t wildly expensive anyway. If you had no intention of meeting him again and knew full well he would pay and therefore chose the most expensive meal on the menu and a bottle of the finest wine on his coin then I would say you were being unreasonable, manipulative and rather nasty. But that doesn’t apply in this case.

sweetbirdofjuice · 06/09/2020 07:30

If it's something specific putting you off then fair enough to no second date (well, fair enough for any reason) and keeping looking.

Citizenfame for my 2p worth, it was just that OLD can be a slog if looking for perfection (or instant chemistry) and quite a quickfire way of making a decision about someone rather than meeting them at work etc where you would get to know them over time. From the OP it sounded as though they got on really well and OP is new to this hence PPs suggesting that she perhaps give it one more date.

I think if there is a real unattraction there, can be any reason, most people would agree that's a bit different to 'hmm, he seems really nice and we had a lot to talk about but I wasn't 100% swept off my feet'.

Sparticuscaticus · 06/09/2020 08:56

It's £20 total bill, your share was £10-13 not £100, get some perspective OP. There's no spark, you sound very sure you don't want a second date, then don't go on a second date. You are overthinking and making this awkward ... over £13!

The text suggested early on by a PP was perfect, but I wouldn't include the 'let me pay you back send me your bank details' part which could sound patronising to him.

From his perspective- it could feel a bit offensive to have someone keep offering to refund you - he was the one who insisted in paying bill doing so when you were away from the table. Accept graciously, behave normally!

If he's the kind of person that would think "oh yeah, I did insist on paying ..not splitting bill as she wanted and got thanked for it at the time..., but now she doesn't want a second date, she should refund me" ... then he is not a nice guy - You're not a transaction, he can't buy you. Not for £13 ...

Wakemeupwhenthisisover · 06/09/2020 09:04

Massive overthink. Just move on.

Shoxfordian · 06/09/2020 09:07

It was only 20 quid
Don't go on another date with him

Notthetoothfairy · 06/09/2020 09:16

I think it’s fine to say thanks but no thanks. I would have agreed with PPs on seeing if attraction develops but see that you have the ick so that won’t work!

chubbyhotchoc · 06/09/2020 09:36

Lol. You're so nice. Unpopular opinion but I never ever offered to pay on dates and I dated a lot before dh. If a guy asked me out I'd expect him to pay. If he asked me to pay I would have but I would never seen him again( not something that ever happened though). Had no desire to date dusty, broke or mean men.

chubbyhotchoc · 06/09/2020 09:41

Oh yes and if I didn't want to see them again I Never felt like I owed them anything. If you made the effort to look nice for the date and were pleasant company that's your part done. Just a short 'I had a nice time but didn't feel a spark. Good luck' suffices. If they send further messages either nasty or pestering it's reasonable to block.

wafflethewonderdog · 06/09/2020 09:53

When I was online dating, I went on a few dates with someone but then told him I didn't feel a spark. He persisted and we've been married 8 years with 2 children.
Give him a chance - you never know Wink

merryhouse · 06/09/2020 10:02

Think of it this way:

Some women go out with men they don't fancy for financial gain.

Some men offer financial incentives to women to go out with them.

Is this the kind of relationship you're looking for?

SleepingStandingUp · 06/09/2020 10:11

@wafflethewonderdog

When I was online dating, I went on a few dates with someone but then told him I didn't feel a spark. He persisted and we've been married 8 years with 2 children. Give him a chance - you never know Wink
We're you repulsed at the idea of kissing him?
SleepingStandingUp · 06/09/2020 10:15

Op I'm normally team 2nd date bit of you are repulsed at the idea of kissing him, then you're kinder to say no to a second date
I wouldn't tie myself up in the date costing him £13 extra, he paid whilst you were away and refused half. I think saying thanks but no thanks so would you like the £13 back as pp said is weirdly rude. You're implying you think he only paid so he'd get sex in the long run

wafflethewonderdog · 06/09/2020 10:36

@SleepingStandingUp
He grew on me Smile

Springfern · 06/09/2020 10:46

I think he was bu to pay when you were in the loo. It's sexist and quite controlling

Stannisbaratheonsboxofmatches · 06/09/2020 11:06

Yanbu at all. You offered to pay, which is all you could do seeing as he’d paid while you were in the loo.

You don’t need to go on another date for this reason, and even if he does think he was somehow treated unfairly it doesnt matter- you know you were there to get a free meal.

ilovesooty · 06/09/2020 11:11

@chubbyhotchoc

Lol. You're so nice. Unpopular opinion but I never ever offered to pay on dates and I dated a lot before dh. If a guy asked me out I'd expect him to pay. If he asked me to pay I would have but I would never seen him again( not something that ever happened though). Had no desire to date dusty, broke or mean men.
Good grief.
ilovesooty · 06/09/2020 11:12

@Springfern

I think he was bu to pay when you were in the loo. It's sexist and quite controlling
Yes I agree with that. I don't think I'd want to have a second date.
Oysterbabe · 06/09/2020 11:14

If he hadn't paid for lunch would you be considering another date? If the answer is no then don't do it. £13 (or any amount) is not enough to buy an evening with you.

LividLaughLovely · 06/09/2020 11:18

Good grief why are so many people pushing you to second date a man you don’t fancy.

The whole point of first date is that in the first three seconds you make a judgement about whether this man could hypothetically ever see you naked.

You then refine that judgement, if it was a potential yes, over the course of the date.

Do not second date someone for the sake of £7. Or worry about it. He chose to pay. You don’t owe him anything other than a polite “no thanks”.

chubbyhotchoc · 06/09/2020 11:19

@Springfern

I think he was bu to pay when you were in the loo. It's sexist and quite controlling
Really?! I'd say that this was chivalrous and thoughtful. Poor dental hygiene would be a next for me but I think the guy otherwise did great.