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To reduce our house offer because of undisclosed sewage pumping station in the garden

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CheesyGhost · 03/09/2020 21:58

We have today discovered through our solicitors that the house we have agreed to buy at full asking price has a significant chunk missing out of the middle of the garden which wouldn't legally belong to us as a sewage pumping station is underground there, and a long stretch of the property, although legally our property, requires right of access for the sewage company at a width of 3 meters. The timber garage has been built on this despite the deeds clearly stating that the access cannot be blocked. When challenged, the vendor has said that the sewage company only actually need one meter of access to check the pump monthly and it has never been a problem in the 7 years they have lived there which is why they built the garage where it is. We are hoping that this will be our forever home so I'm sure that at some point in the next 50 years, the sewage company are going to want their full 3 meters to deal with any significant issues.
We are very annoyed that this was not disclosed prior to this point and the estate agent claims that they did not know about it either though the vendor clearly did.
In all honesty, we were planning to rip down the garage and rebuild it anyway but now we know this, we will look to rebuild elsewhere in the garden so we could keep the access free in the long term. Even with the chunk missing, it is a very good sized garden as we can't see this being a problem as such and although not ideal to have the pumping station essentially in our garden, that's not a huge issue either for our day to day living from what we can currently assess.
But we are angry that what was advertised is not what we are buying and would like to renegotiate our offer. Are we being unreasonable in asking for a £5000 reduction which would cover the rebuild of the timber garage at least? I know we were going to do it anyway for our own taste but there is almost 6m² of garden missing compared to what was advertised.

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thanksamillion · 03/09/2020 23:19

Can you try and find out more from the company? Eg what exactly it is and does and what type of access/ how regularly they need and anticipate in terms of major work.
Then ask for a big reduction because the valuation clearly didn't reflect this.

crankysaurus · 03/09/2020 23:21

If you do want to go ahead with it, I'd suggest you get details from the water company about extacly where the easement lies... pumping stations don't exist in isolation, there will be pipes to and from it that may need fully excavating and replacing at some point. If you're looking to be there for a long time, chances are there will be the need for some work at some point. You may also be able to find out if there have been any recorded spills, leaks or failures of the pumping station that have resulted in spills to the garden and or house. Think too about the topography of the garden too and where stuff would follow if it had a spill, would it head towards your house? You may also be able to ask when was it constructed and the design life / timescale till it's upgraded. Given all that you could see how much you'd want to knock off the asking price. I'd suggest more than £5k.

domesticslattern · 03/09/2020 23:21

This is why I love MN.
An expert like @TipsySquirrel comes along and tells you exactly what you need to know.

clairethewitch70 · 03/09/2020 23:21

I assume this is a rural house? A sewage pumping station is not far off a septic tank. I think you are all imaging a house on an estate with the pumping station serving all the houses? I think it is more likely this

www.pumpingsolutions.co.uk/blog/what-is-a-sewage-pumping-station/

StargazyDrifter · 03/09/2020 23:22

Agree with others saying to walk away.

Also worth considering that, if this did end up as your forever home, you will almost certainly face some sort of upgrade works/flooding issue and will probably need to rebuild at least some of your garden. Probably when it’s most inconvenient! If this didn’t end up your forever home, as others have said, it will be a nightmare to sell.

I also wonder if this business with the station may impact your mortgage (if relevant), both now and in future.

domesticslattern · 03/09/2020 23:23

And @crankysaurus too!

cantstopsinginglittlebabybum · 03/09/2020 23:25

I wouldn't buy the house, that would make me run for the hills.

JessicaBlack101 · 03/09/2020 23:25

I'd be looking elsewhere.

I'm already envisioning a horror-comedy movie level disaster with an eruption of sewerage onto your house, your garage, your car, you. Might end up being good fertiliser for the garden though.
There will be other houses with big gardens.

FrankRattlesnake · 03/09/2020 23:25

This is a very big sign that you should walk away. This would absolutely be a dealbreaker for me. I assume they have only disclosed this because they have to?

Ellie56 · 03/09/2020 23:28

Eww no! Walk away.

fuandylp · 03/09/2020 23:28

No way would I buy that.
Pull out. It's just a nightmare.
If anything needs replacing there could be weeks of digging going on in your garden.
Then you've got the fact you've got people showing up once a month to check the pump.

FizzyGreenWater · 03/09/2020 23:31

NOPE

BaronessBomburst · 03/09/2020 23:31

I'm also wondering what the mortgage company will make of this?

hadenoughbleach · 03/09/2020 23:36

[quote clairethewitch70]I assume this is a rural house? A sewage pumping station is not far off a septic tank. I think you are all imaging a house on an estate with the pumping station serving all the houses? I think it is more likely this

www.pumpingsolutions.co.uk/blog/what-is-a-sewage-pumping-station/[/quote]

Having looked at your link, I still wouldn't buy a house with one of those in the land. Too many potential issues coming down the line...

WeAllHaveWings · 03/09/2020 23:36

< you have something like that processing sewage in the garden! No way would I purchase a house with that.

To reduce our house offer because of undisclosed sewage pumping station in the garden
SquirtleSquad · 03/09/2020 23:39

Run

QuiltingFlower · 03/09/2020 23:39

We had the exact same thing, and walked away. Pumps fail, as do backup pumps.

GreenTiles22 · 03/09/2020 23:43

It's another no from me. No way.

And a swaggering pump is completely different to a septic tank

Nanny0gg · 03/09/2020 23:47

Re-selling would be a nightmare!

Why do you think they didn't tell you in the first place.

There's lots more houses out there.

Run!

BoomBoomsCousin · 03/09/2020 23:47

I think I'd probably want significantly more than 5k off. There's the issue of rebuilding the garage, but also of having people in your garden every month checking on it; the issue in the future at some point, of work being done on it that's disruptive; and the fact that you couldn't do as you please with that bit of garden (and the access to it). The house is certainly worth less than an identical one without the sewerage and it's not just the cost of relocating the garage.

It's telling that they didn't mention it. I don't believe the estate agent for a minute - I'd put money on him having told them not to mention it knowing that you'd feel more pressure to buy if you had done all the work to get to this stage before you found out. It's a sales tactic to try and increase the price at your expense. Pretty much every householder knows they have to declare things like that.

While I don't think a sewerage tank is necessarily a deal breaker (presumably there must be lots and lots of people who have them in their gardens), I'd want to know a lot more about it. I would call the water board and see if they can tell you what's involved in maintaining and servicing the tank, how frequent the different checks and services are normally done and what they have done to that one as far back as they have records for.

EvilPea · 03/09/2020 23:49

My garden flooded with sewage once after a neighbour blocked the drain with baby wipes. It was grim, like properly grim.

The comment above about access being needed 24/7 made me think. At some point the equipment will need replacing, even if it doesn’t fail. If it fails you could be in a whole heap of shit, as well as have noisy equipment, and generators going.

I’d really be weighing up how much you want the house.

caringcarer · 03/09/2020 23:53

No way would I continue with buying this house. The sellers are dishonest and you only have their word access is once a month. What if there are problems down the line? The thought of living above a sewage plant is very.unpleadant. I am sure you could find another home without this issue and dishonest seller.

DemiBourbon · 03/09/2020 23:55

It would totally put me off buying the house. As others have said, you never know when access for machinery will be needed and I could only imagine the worst case scenario of a sewage pumping station not functioning properly ...

cakeandchampagne · 03/09/2020 23:56

I would pull out.

MrsApplepants · 04/09/2020 00:01

Send your solicitor a box of chocolates in thanks and run for the hills

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