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To reduce our house offer because of undisclosed sewage pumping station in the garden

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CheesyGhost · 03/09/2020 21:58

We have today discovered through our solicitors that the house we have agreed to buy at full asking price has a significant chunk missing out of the middle of the garden which wouldn't legally belong to us as a sewage pumping station is underground there, and a long stretch of the property, although legally our property, requires right of access for the sewage company at a width of 3 meters. The timber garage has been built on this despite the deeds clearly stating that the access cannot be blocked. When challenged, the vendor has said that the sewage company only actually need one meter of access to check the pump monthly and it has never been a problem in the 7 years they have lived there which is why they built the garage where it is. We are hoping that this will be our forever home so I'm sure that at some point in the next 50 years, the sewage company are going to want their full 3 meters to deal with any significant issues.
We are very annoyed that this was not disclosed prior to this point and the estate agent claims that they did not know about it either though the vendor clearly did.
In all honesty, we were planning to rip down the garage and rebuild it anyway but now we know this, we will look to rebuild elsewhere in the garden so we could keep the access free in the long term. Even with the chunk missing, it is a very good sized garden as we can't see this being a problem as such and although not ideal to have the pumping station essentially in our garden, that's not a huge issue either for our day to day living from what we can currently assess.
But we are angry that what was advertised is not what we are buying and would like to renegotiate our offer. Are we being unreasonable in asking for a £5000 reduction which would cover the rebuild of the timber garage at least? I know we were going to do it anyway for our own taste but there is almost 6m² of garden missing compared to what was advertised.

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ReceptacleForTheRespectable · 03/09/2020 22:31

Either pull out or a much bigger reduction than 5k

Phoenix76 · 03/09/2020 22:31

Sorry op I’d be running away from this as fast as I could for all the above reasons.

ReceptacleForTheRespectable · 03/09/2020 22:33

The fact that the vendor built a garage blocking the access would make me wonder what else they've bodged too.

lakesidefall · 03/09/2020 22:33

There is a clear reason the vendors haven't mentioned the issue, they think people won't want a sewage station in their garden.
They aren't wrong.
Gutting though it is I think walking away is the most sensible option as this really is a very significant omission on their part which will impact resale options and value.

Burnthurst187 · 03/09/2020 22:34

@tinofbeans

I'd withdraw. When you come to sell in the future it will be a total nightmare!
I bet that's why they kept quiet!
SofiaAmes · 03/09/2020 22:34

Doesn't that mean the garage has been built without permits? Are you sure you can even get a permit to build a new one?

TestingTestingWonTooFree · 03/09/2020 22:35

I would be putting my offer on hold until I had some independent expert advice. I’d be thinking of pulling out.

BumholeJ · 03/09/2020 22:35

Yes definitely reduce offer. If the pump leaked or heaven forbid “geysered”, it wouldn’t smell (or look) pretty.

TheDoctorDances · 03/09/2020 22:36

Run. If it fails or overflows your land could be contaminated.

You’d then have to fight them to put it right. Could take a very long time, months of disruption and cost. The smell would be unimaginable and you couldn’t use your garden.

BikeRunSki · 03/09/2020 22:36

@rwalker

The 3m access will be for if they need to get machinery in so they have been lucky so far.
This

I work for a public body that has assets and infrastructure around. We ideally like 4m access and easement. We may not need to bring in big plant very often, but when we need to, we need to.

It doesn’t sound like your sellers have been very honest with you. I’d reconsider your position/price and find out exactly the restrictions/conditions associated with the sewage works (Is access potentially required 24/7?! Are any future upgrade/construction works planned? ) p before proceeding further, if at all.

Saisong · 03/09/2020 22:38

My friend bought a house in the vicinity of a sewage pumping station - it wasn't directly in her garden. Nevertheless it failed and flooded hers and several neighbours gardens with raw sewage - more than once. At which point the sewage company decided it needed upgrading, they were then all subjected to several months of work involving pile drivers and various other construction to make the hole b8g enough.

Are you sure you could live with that?

nestisflown · 03/09/2020 22:38

I couldn’t live with a sewage station in the garden. Personally I’d look for another forever home that isn’t so complicated. Looking at the responses on here, you might struggle to sell to if your circumstances change and you need to move- it seems most potential buyers would have significant reservations about that house.

Aridane · 03/09/2020 22:38

Independent advice. Then request a major reduction

monkeyonthetable · 03/09/2020 22:39

I'd pull out and consider asking for them to foot the bill for your survey as they blatantly concealed a very important factor.

Aridane · 03/09/2020 22:39

(assuming the advice is NOT against buying)

peonia · 03/09/2020 22:39

I'd definitely pull out and also report the estate agents to their professional body.

Mrsmadevans · 03/09/2020 22:41

OMG l would pull out .

MyNameForToday1980 · 03/09/2020 22:41

I'd pull out.

If that pumping station needs work your garden will be dug up, at a time convenient to the water board, they will refill the hole, but you will be liable for any costs to repair your garden.

Source: a friend recently pulled out of a house for this exact reason

Bettercallsaul1 · 03/09/2020 22:41

Run, OP, run for the hills.

Bipbopbee · 03/09/2020 22:42

This would put me right off. Sorry OP there’s no way I’d proceed with this new info. Very sneaky of the vendors not to disclose.

NewHouseNewMe · 03/09/2020 22:42

Sorry but I'm another who would pull out.

A friend had a manhole in her garage that blew and the entire contents were covered in sewerage. Imagine that at scale..

k1233 · 03/09/2020 22:44

I would be concerned about major works and / or upgrades. As noted above 3m would be due to equipment access. If you are determined to go ahead, is there a way to check upgrade / upcoming work plans for the station? I'd be concerned the sellers know some work is coming and are selling up before it happens. That's just because I don't trust people. There may be nothing in the pipeline, but without checking you'll never know.

tectonicplates · 03/09/2020 22:45

Sorry OP, but I really do think you should pull out altogether. I know you had your heart set on it being your forever home, but you surely don't want to now that you know this information.

If they've lied about this, what else would they have lied about too? Goodness knows.

SeptemberAlexandra · 03/09/2020 22:45

I had an offer accepted on a property with the sewage for that property and the neighbour running under the garden. It was not mentioned in the particulars and vendor didn’t disclose when viewing.

We withdrew our offer as soon as we found out from the valuation. We didn’t want the risk of a flood and having to deal with sewage over our garden.

It has sold since but it took almost 3 years to sell. I’ve no idea how much it finally sold for but the vendors had already reduced by £55,000 from the original listing.

Thisismytimetoshine · 03/09/2020 22:45

Withdraw your offer. If they'd disclosed this, it would have massively impacted the price.