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The Disunited States of Trump (Trump Thread #104)

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TheNorthWestPawsage · 02/09/2020 14:25

Trump used manipulation and race-baiting four years ago. He’s at it again. We are weary and worried but we shall persist.

Cartoon by Chris Riddell.

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lionheart · 16/09/2020 13:26

A memorial to a memorial. Let's hope this doesn't catch on because a lot of statues have been 'decommissioned' recently.

lionheart · 16/09/2020 13:28

To be fair, I'm not sure all the money that has been spent went on the campaign itself. But that's something for the prosecutors to thrash out in the coming months and years.

The Lincoln Project
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'Imagine raising $1 Billion dollars over three years, spending it all just to be down 10 points, and having no money left to be on TV. Yikes.'

Cacacoisfarraige · 16/09/2020 13:35

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lionheart · 16/09/2020 13:47

According to Fox, Trump was the victim of an ambush.

crooksandliars.com/2020/09/laura-ingraham-claims-donald-trump-was?utm_source=social&utm_medium=twitter&utm_content=36020

BruceAndNosh · 16/09/2020 14:00

[quote lionheart]According to Fox, Trump was the victim of an ambush.

crooksandliars.com/2020/09/laura-ingraham-claims-donald-trump-was?utm_source=social&utm_medium=twitter&utm_content=36020[/quote]
I don't think "being asked quite reasonable questions that an incumbent President should be expecting" is the dictionary definition of ambush

ludothedog · 16/09/2020 14:32

@Cacacoisfarraige

I just wonder about the US culture. Are independent and critical thinking so absent from a large portion of their population ? Why is educational thinking so dismissed / viewed with suspicion by them.

I just can’t get my head around it

Theres an interesting documentary on netflix about how social media is polarising voters and manipulating not only our behaviours voting patterns. It quite literally is that we are not seeing the same news reports and articles, fake news and even facts. It's a really interesting watch and helps understand why we are in this situation
AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 16/09/2020 15:01

"One of the most disturbing revelations, the survey noted, is that 11 percent of respondents believe Jews caused the Holocaust. The number climbs to 19 percent in New York, the state with the largest Jewish population."

That's horrific!

AcrossthePond55 · 16/09/2020 16:10

"Ambushed!" Bwah-ha-ha-ha-ha! 'Ambushed' by everyday Americans asking simple questions in plain English. To which he replied with rambling word salads full of self-praise, lies, and ridiculous & untrue statements about Biden.

Like "Biden didn't institute a national mask policy". No he didn't you numpty. Because Biden isn't POTUS and doesn't have the authority to 'institute' anything. Yet.

And I LOVE 'herd mentality'. Talk about a freudian slip! His cult's already existing 'herd mentality' is what he's depending on to win the election.

AcrossthePond55 · 16/09/2020 16:27

@Cacacoisfarraige

I just wonder about the US culture. Are independent and critical thinking so absent from a large portion of their population ? Why is educational thinking so dismissed / viewed with suspicion by them.

I just can’t get my head around it

No, it's really not absent nor is it dismissed.

But in these days of 'insta-fame' and 'if it bleeds it leads', the idiots that make the most noise or say the most shocking things seem to get the most exposure. And because Scrotus is such a car crash he and his cult get a lot of international coverage. Just the same way that Farrage and his ilk got a bit of coverage here during the Brexit vote period. Because of you lovely vipers I knew that not all Britons were 'like that'. But some people might have heard the 'Britain First' supporters on US news and wondered where all the kind and good people in the UK had gone. Like my dad used to say "Believe none of what you hear and half of what you see".

I also think some of the coverage is to 'take the US down a peg' because we've always been so chauvinistic (and vocal) about the US being 'the best country'. It's what we were taught in schools back in my day and maybe it was 'sort of' true 50-60 years ago. But in reality, now we're no better than any other democratic country and indeed, fall far short of some of them in many areas.

Most of us are just living our lives, trying to stay educated and informed, and trying to talk sense to the people in our lives. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. You can't argue with stupid.

BruceAndNosh · 16/09/2020 17:00

One of his advisors need to remind Trump that since he lives via the media and Twitter, his speeches and interviews and tweets are there as evidence.
He's now lying about lying, insisting that he never downplayed CV , he "up-played" it whatever the fuck that means

lionheart · 16/09/2020 18:14

Can you imagine the wreckage if Biden took him up on his offer of a four hour debate?

Lweji · 16/09/2020 19:19

Anyone asking questions ambushes Trump.

Even during his pressers.

lionheart · 16/09/2020 19:51

LG has been bleating on about tax returns but not in relation to Trump.

www.yahoo.com/huffpost/jaime-harrison-lindsey-graham-donald-trump-133052210.html?soc_src=social-sh&soc_trk=tw&tsrc=twtr

Cacacoisfarraige · 16/09/2020 20:27

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Heffalooomia · 16/09/2020 20:46

Anyone asking questions ambushes Trump
^this
ambush=taking someone by surprise
trump expects that things will always go his way
he neither anticipates nor prepares for other eventualities, therefore he is constantly 'ambushed'

Lweji · 16/09/2020 21:47

On a side note, that Mirror piece is hilarious:

"Trump is now married to First Lady Melania Trump" - no words

"During the chat on the ITV show, the mother-of-three..."

Mrsmorton · 16/09/2020 22:04

Herd mentality was just... trump. Ugh.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 16/09/2020 22:09

That Mirror piece: I hope that she is beautiful inside, unlike her ex-husband.

lionheart · 17/09/2020 01:39

medium.com/@rmoore.acorn/u-s-generals-are-raising-the-alarm-d98807702c31

'Our military has leaned strongly Republican. By law, active military are constrained from political action. Most retired officers are highly politically aware but strive to be non-partisan, and are often not aligned with either party.
The fact that so many top-ranked former Generals and Admirals have gone on record to speak out against Donald Trump underscores the gravity of the threat he represents to our democracy and, ultimately, what it means to be American. Below are warnings from a number of these retired, highly respected military commanders.'

AcrossthePond55 · 17/09/2020 01:42

@Cacacoisfarraige

I didn't take it as you being rude, not at all.

There was a 'sea change' (and not to something 'rich and strange') in the mid to late 80s in US TV. I don't know what brought it on to tell the truth. The early late 70s/early 80s were so much about greed and conspicuous consumption, maybe it was a backlash?

I did have to smile at you watching Dallas and Little House and having the US on a pedestal. Probably not as high a pedestal as we had ourselves on back then. Personally, it's a long way down from a pedestal and I'm glad we're off it.

TheClaws · 17/09/2020 02:08

Now this is an astonishingly heartless statement. He is effectively saying he doesn't consider the blue states part of the nation. This, alone, should see him booted out in November - but it will be forgotten by the weekend.

The American Independent @AmerIndependent 1hr

Praising his own virus response as deaths near 200,000, Trump says, "if you take the blue states out, we're at a level I don't think anybody in the world would be at."

twitter.com/amerindependent/status/1306343848680054784?s=21

borntobequiet · 17/09/2020 07:19

Across, I think we’re about the same age (I was born July ‘53).
Despite being brought up on different continents I think our childhood experiences and education, and cultural background, were surprisingly similar.
Thanks for the reminder of Ariel’s Song, which we used to sing at school (Catholic convent). I’m not musical, but can still sing it:
Full fathom five my father lies
Of his bones are coral made
Those are pearls that were his eyes
Those are pearls that were his eyes...

I so wish our different countries weren’t in such similar messes today.

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