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KWIK FIT scams and other car repair scams

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RobertTheBruce · 02/09/2020 10:49

Hi all. I came across an old thread from 2018 where someone had been charged £900 by Kwik Fit for work on their car, which was in the main un-necessary. I thought I would provide some simple clear advice to help people avoid being ripped off.

Firstly, do not use fast fit centres like Kwik Fit at all, because despite most people knowing they'll tell you your car needs un-necessary work done, not everyone knows this and thus get ripped off. Take your car to small garages, preferably one's which are recommended to you.

One of the biggest scams in the car servicing industry (a speciality of Kwik Fit) is to tell you that you need new brake pads and brake discs when you DON'T. They then charge you amounts like £350 to change your front pads and discs. Brake discs and pads can be bought from Euro Car Parts for most cars for under £70. Fitting them takes a maximum of 1 hour. Even if the garage supplies the parts, the bill for a set of pads and discs fitted to most cars should not exceed £140-£160.

Brake pads will not wear out quickly if you are an average driver. The front generally wear out about twice as fast as the rear because most of the braking force is at the front. My front pads in every car I've ever had usually last for at least 25-30,000 miles and the rears 40-50,000 miles. Unless you are a boy/girl racer, there's no reason why your pads should not last similar mileages.

As for brake DISCS, this is the biggest scam of all. Discs do not need replaced at all unless they are warped, very heavily scored and grooved, or their thickness has reduced to the minimum thickness recommended by the car manufacturer (which you can check by contacting a dealership). I have owned several cars which have covered over 70,000 miles and have NEVER had to replace the discs, so if a garage tells you you need new discs at lower mileages they're certainly ripping you off unless they can show you proof of damage. Damage is NOT light scoring or grooving, that happens to all discs with mileage.

Another scam used is to tell you because your pads are worn, it's best to change them AND replace the discs at the same time. This is utter hogwash. It's perfectly fine to put new pads on older discs. The new pads just 'bed in' to any slight grooving on the discs.

Bear in mind the mileages above when anyone tells you that your pads and discs could be needing changed. Avoid fast-fit centres and use small garages. Even with the latter, it's best to get quotes from at least 2 unless you have a good recommendation.

Hope this helps people to avoid being scammed.

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Katiecoooooo · 02/09/2020 11:03

Thanks for posting this. Really helpful.

NotEverythingIsBlackandWhite · 02/09/2020 11:06

Thank you. That is very helpful.

KeepingPlain · 02/09/2020 11:07

I called kwik fit slow fit because they are useless.

Also don't buy from Arnold Clark. They are con artists too, tried to blame me for my car breaking down 2 miles from the garage after buying it. That did not go well for them. Use smaller garages where you often get a better price anyway, and you'll no doubt actually buy a car that has been serviced. Arnold Clark don't do that, despite saying they will.

chomalungma · 02/09/2020 11:10

Can you do tires and shock absorbers as well?

LeroyJenkinssss · 02/09/2020 11:13

Ha I remember going to a dealership and they told me my brake discs were worn and needed to be replaced. I reminded them that they had replaced them not six months prior and then suddenly they didn’t need replacing at all!

Although saying that the kwik fit by ours is actually quite good and have in fact told me on a couple of occasions not to bother replacing stuff as it didn’t really warrant it. The kwik fit by my work is appalling though and I wouldn’t go near them with a barge pole!

zingally · 02/09/2020 11:20

Regarding brake pads... Most cars are very clear when they need replacing, because you'll start to hear a bit of a squealing sound when you apply the brakes. :)

islandislandisland · 02/09/2020 11:20

Kwik fit are bandits, they quoted me 700 for a new exhaust on a bloody Chevrolet matiz plus a load more for fixing 'excessive play in the suspension'. Took it to my usual mechanic (only used Kwik fit as I needed an MOT and my garage was busy) and they did the exhaust for 400 and told me that the suspension was actually on a rollerball so was meant to have play in it. Wouldn't even use kwik fit for tyres now.

caithnini · 02/09/2020 11:24

Autoglass repair are the same. I had a chip on drivers side 2 weeks ago. I used the website and realised that when we updated insurance this year I accidentally downgraded so windscreens aren't covered. Anyway, Autoglass quote £460 but I also have to drive it ~30 miles to a repair centre.

Went online and searched for local alternatives, found a company who did the job that afternoon for £150.

Don't think I'll ever use Autoglass again.

SerenDippitty · 02/09/2020 11:25

We’ e always used a local garage who seem to very good. They are members of TrustMyGarage, though I don’t know if that actually means anything.

Anotherlovelybitofsquirrel · 02/09/2020 11:26

I was nearly scammed by KF for about £800 many years ago. Dreadful people.

Sewsosew · 02/09/2020 11:26

My local kwik fit are amazing. DH is a chatterbox and has developed a relationship with the guys in there though. They did a few things for me for free when I was in recently.
I’m not sure I would go in another branch though

squirrelsbizaar · 02/09/2020 11:32

I think it’s hit and miss with garages. I have had bad experiences with small independents, not doing what they say and charging for unnecessary work. Kwik fit and the big chains will price match and you actually you have some comeback with them If things go wrong, they’re a big chain with a complaints dept.

Always best to shop around for best prices and get second opinion on work needed, don’t just automatically think independent = good, big chain = bad.

TwoZeroTwoZero · 02/09/2020 11:33

We use KF for the Fezza because the lease company have some contract with them. For the other car we use a local garage.

OscarWildesCat · 02/09/2020 11:39

I work in a large car dealership and can confirm most of this is 100% the case, I’m on commission for selling tyres, brake pads and discs. I hate it.

MidnightCitrus · 02/09/2020 11:43

@TwoZeroTwoZero

We use KF for the Fezza because the lease company have some contract with them. For the other car we use a local garage.
don't google Fezza..... hmmmm uban dictionary....
SerenDippitty · 02/09/2020 11:44

I just did Grin

honeygirlz · 02/09/2020 11:48

My local Kwik-Fit are brilliant. They let me pay online prices for tyres (usually more expensive if you buy in store), and they charged me £100 to change brake pads. And MOT was £25!

Johntaylorschin · 02/09/2020 11:48

I took mine to Kiki fit as I had a slow puncture, they told me all 4 tyres were worn and needed replacing pointing out small cracks in the tyres. i’d only recently had it mot’d so was wary, I took it elsewhere who told me my other tyres were fine for another 50,000 miles.

Hoppinggreen · 02/09/2020 12:19

Nice SEO article around Pads and Disks!

thedancingbear · 02/09/2020 12:23

I am sure that there are decent Kwik Fits out there. But in my personal experience I have found them to be a shower of unrelenting conniving cunts.

Northernlass99 · 02/09/2020 12:35

Kwik Fit are absolute criminals. They replaced my exhaust with such a poor quality product that I couldn’t pass my MOT on emissions. I took it back to them and they gave me a false emissions rating. Only when I threatened trading standards did they sort this out. Criminals. Avoid.

ShakeaHettyFeather · 02/09/2020 12:51

KF once replaced my friend's tyres with ones they'd taken the inner tubes out of to sell separately. Apparently that can be ok on new cars but not her old banger, so she took 4 hours driving to me having to pump them all up on the way. She eventually got refund and compo.

To be fair, our local KwikFit have competently regassed our aircon for years, but only because the local garage we use doesn't do it. In summer the KwikFit do every car in the area (and offer free drinks while you wait).

dontdisturbmenow · 02/09/2020 12:59

Oh yes I had it so many times after Mots or services, then shock when I say no thank you, I know the discs don't need changing, don't play that game with me.

I agree it is the big ones, including dealerships.

RobertTheBruce · 02/09/2020 13:01

Someone asked about tyres and shock absorbers so here's a few general points that might be useful.

TYRES and the LAW:
The law requires car tyres to have a minimum tread depth of 1.6mm in a continuous band around the central three quarters of the tyre. To help you judge how much tread you have on your car tyres, manufacturers often mould tread bars at roughly 1.6mm.

Put another way, you need a minimum of 1.6mm across the width of the tyre except the inner and outer edge of the tread, each being an 1/8 of the total width. Tyres are the only things keeping your car attached to the road, so it's not advisable to drive on tyres right on the legal limit. The less tread, the less well they will perform on wet roads, meaning stopping distances and traction will decrease. I recommend changing tyres once the tread is down to between 2 and 3mm.

Keeping your tyre pressures correct is also important. Small differences like 1 or 2psi will not cause problems, but over inflate them too much and less tyre is in contact with the road. Under inflating significantly can damage the tyre's structure and will increase your fuel consumption. Tyres which are under or over inflated by large amounts are dangerous.

Tyres can also sustain damage to their sidewalls which could lead to a blowout. Due to the state of the roads, this type of damage is becoming more common than it used to be. Visually inspect your tyre walls periodically to look for damage such as cracks and splits.

I do not recommend using part worn tyres to save a small amount of money. The saving is usually very small if anything, but more importantly these tyres could already be damaged inside with no visible marks on the outside making them dangerous. These tyres can be from scrapped and accident damaged cars. Do you really want to be driving on tyres like these?

New tyres can be bought online nowadays at very cheap prices which include fitting at a local garage. You don't need Bridgestones or Michelins if you are a normal driver. These are much more expensive than so called budget brand tyres and do last longer, but are not necessary for day to day normal driving. I have used budget brand tyres for decades and have never once had a problem with them. These can be obtained for an average car like a Fiesta or Focus for £35-£50. No need to pay double for top tyre names for normal driving.

SHOCK ABSORBERS
This is a tricky one, because they can't be inspected properly without a ramp. Which is why it's a big favourite of unscrupulous garages... "I'm afraid your shockers are goosed Sir/madam".

Shock absorbers which are worn out can cause:
Reduced braking ability, which means longer stopping distances
ABS and ESP can lose their efficiency
Increased risk of skidding on wet roads
Aquaplaning occurs at lower speeds
Increased wear and tear of tyres and other suspension parts

If your car starts to be harder to handle on corners, particularly on wet or uneven roads, your shock absorbers may need replaced. An inspection is required to check for oil leaks from each shock absorber. If they are leaking oil it is best to replace them. If only 1 is leaking, it's best and safest to replace them in pairs. Replacing a pair plus labour is not cheap, so if it's something you think you might need done, get 2 or 3 opinions, but not from fast fit centres as they'll just tell you they need replaced.

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Fandajji · 02/09/2020 13:09

Halfords did similar with my car after a free safety check. Apparently I was driving around a total hazard that would kill my kids. I took it to another garage in a right panic and they changed one tyre, put some screenwash in and said everything else was perfect.

The tyre could have waited but I was determined to make them do something due to my fear levels after the comments from Halfords!