The alphabet and 'H'.

[Thatbliddywoman]

So we say
Ay.
Bee
Sea
Dee
Ee
Eff
Jee
Aitch. Except we don't. We say 'Haitch'.
Why?
We make the aitch have its own letter as the sound of the word for it
We don't do that with any other letter. Why H?
We don't say 'wubbleyew' do we, It's 'doubleyew'?
I don't understand it.

Ayyyyyyyych

• Those who use "aitch" When saying a name for example Harriet or Harry do you drop the "haitch" to pronounce it Arriet or Arry.*

No. Because I'm pronouncing the word not spelling it. You don't say all the letters in a word when you say it.

It's spelled 'aitch' in the OED (and most other dictionaries of the English language). I pronounce it aitch but haitch is a regional variation so I can't get too worked up about it. Miss-chee-vee-ous for mischievous is another story though (light hearted).

Fly - adding ‘tongue in cheek’ to your posts isn’t helping you look less ignorant.

And to clarify, I use the word ignorant in the English sense AND the Irish sense

@iklboo

* Those who use "aitch" When saying a name for example Harriet or Harry do you drop the "haitch" to pronounce it Arriet or Arry.*

No. Because I'm pronouncing the word not spelling it. You don't say all the letters in a word when you say it.

It's spelled 'aitch' in the OED (and most other dictionaries of the English language). I pronounce it aitch but haitch is a regional variation so I can't get too worked up about it. Miss-chee-vee-ous for mischievous is another story though (light hearted).

But is it spelled or spelt? I couldn't give a hoot but I wonder if the American English 'spelled' gives people the rage too?

You do go on. Do stop, you're looking a bit silly now. Same advice for yourself but silly would be too flattering for you.

As if your opinion matters ....

@FlySheMust

As if your opinion matters ....

It matters enough for you to type a response.😂😂😂

An hotel is probably correct though. And an historian. Even though it sounds ridiculous!

I think the general rule seems to be that, if a word starts with an 'H' and the emphasis falls on the second (or possibly subsequent) syllable, it's an accepted variation to use either 'a' or 'an'. Therefore, you can say either 'a historian' or 'an historian' but never 'an history lesson'.

I had a row with DCs teacher once when a homophones homework was marked incorrect for not matching poor and pour. We are in Northern Ireland and they are most certainly not homophones here.

I'm from the English Midlands and I don't consider 'poor' and 'pour' to be homophones either. I'd say that 'pour' and 'pore' are homophones, but 'poor' has a slightly different vowel/diphthong sound. A bit like when people say that 'your' and 'you're' are confusing when writing, because they sound exactly the same - not to me they don't.

haitch is a regional variation

@iklboo it's NOT just a regional variation, as Ireland is not a region of the UK, and 'haitch' is used here, too.

@Miscella

Fly - adding ‘tongue in cheek’ to your posts isn’t helping you look less ignorant.

And to clarify, I use the word ignorant in the English sense AND the Irish sense

Nice one @Miscella 👏👏

@EarringsandLipstick - I'm sorry. I truly didn't mean to offend. But I didn't say it was a regional variation of the UK. And I'm well aware Ireland isn't in the UK. I never said it was. Different regions of other English speaking countries have variations too.

[quote iklboo]@EarringsandLipstick - I'm sorry. I truly didn't mean to offend. But I didn't say it was a regional variation of the UK. And I'm well aware Ireland isn't in the UK. I never said it was. Different regions of other English speaking countries have variations too. [/quote]
Thanks iklboo and that's fair - you didn't say that.

But, sorry to harp on, but no. It's not a regional thing in Ireland. It's Hiberno-English. It's how we speak. It's our language.

This thread is just infuriating (not meaning you iklboo) But just so many people not getting that Ireland is another country, where language is applied differently. Not incorrectly.

Bloody app & messing with formatting! It all looked perfectly correctly bolded before I pressed 'Post' 😞

@EarringsandLipstick - thank you for educating me. I do mean that. It's something I'll definitely take on board & remember in future. It's very interesting about the nuances and differences and what they can mean.

Bloody hate that when someone says haitch

[quote iklboo]@EarringsandLipstick - thank you for educating me. I do mean that. It's something I'll definitely take on board & remember in future. It's very interesting about the nuances and differences and what they can mean. [/quote]
Thanks for the nice response @iklboo it's very decent of you 💐

@CareBear50 in the Orange tradition, “hat” is spelled thus:

B-O-W-L-E-R

@WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll

An hotel is probably correct though. And an historian. Even though it sounds ridiculous!

I think the general rule seems to be that, if a word starts with an 'H' and the emphasis falls on the second (or possibly subsequent) syllable, it's an accepted variation to use either 'a' or 'an'. Therefore, you can say either 'a historian' or 'an historian' but never 'an history lesson'.

I had a row with DCs teacher once when a homophones homework was marked incorrect for not matching poor and pour. We are in Northern Ireland and they are most certainly not homophones here.

I'm from the English Midlands and I don't consider 'poor' and 'pour' to be homophones either. I'd say that 'pour' and 'pore' are homophones, but 'poor' has a slightly different vowel/diphthong sound. A bit like when people say that 'your' and 'you're' are confusing when writing, because they sound exactly the same - not to me they don't.

I'm Midlands and you're your are identical and pour pore poor are identical except maybe with the more common poo-a for poor

Haitch is incorrect - it’s pronounced Aitch

@EarringsandLipstick - I do really mean it. You can't grow if you won't learn and people need to be open to others' experiences and knowledge.

@VestaTilley

Haitch is incorrect - it’s pronounced Aitch

You realise that's been said a million times and the only answer is "where you're from"

Who say Haitch? Are you Scots or Irish? Londoners are fond of Haitch too.

There's all sorts of nonsense about correct pronunciation, I'm a Londoner, DH is Scots. I hear no difference between draw and drawer, to me they're the same word, to him completely different. Numerous other examples too tedious to list. The Welsh will insist there's no muddling their and there because they're pronounced differently but they tie the English in knots when it comes to spelling because they sound the same. It's really time we let this stuff go, it doesn't matter at all.

"Haitch is incorrect - it’s pronounced Aitch"
Read the fucking thread.