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To think MN is pitching Premium all wrong?

123 replies

StillCoughingandLaughing · 31/08/2020 10:52

Every time I come onto MN I see ads for MN Premium. The clue is in the name - it’s a premium version of a service we currently get in exchange for being the subject of advertising. To actively start parting with my money for it, they need to offer me something special; something valuable. Yet the ad tells us very little about that. Instead, it tells us ‘Mumsnet needs your help’.

This is the kind of language I’d expect a charity or educational programme to use. It’s an appeal to help those who can’t help themselves. MN is not a charity - it’s a multi-million pound business. If they need more income, fine, start a premium service; but why pitch it as the chance to help some very rich people? Tell me why I should pay the service; what it will do for ME as a customer, not why MN wants/needs the money. It’s the equivalent of me going to my boss and saying ‘My mortgage payments have gone up and I’m planning to start a family, so I need a rise’. That might well be why I need the money, but it’s not why my boss should give it to me. I need to prove that I’m worth the money. MN needs to do the same.

Is it just me, or is this a total marketing failure and a complete misread of the mood of the audience?

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IcedPurple · 31/08/2020 14:29

@DarkMintChocolate

I rarely even notice the ads, and the ones I do, I find quite helpful.

I don’t see why I would subscribe to a forum, I find quite limited - I can’t understand why posters can’t edit or delete posts later, or opt to go straight to the last post on a thread; as I could on another forum, which looked pretty much the same as MN apart from no ads (although regular posters often chose to subscribe to help the owner out, but then it was her hobby not a business).

Agreed. I don't mind the ads - on some sites you can barely read due to obnoxious ads flashing at you - but here I barely notice them. But MN has very limited functionality compared to other forums which are also free to use. It's about 10 years out of date in that respect. So why pay for a pretty basic site where we, the users, provide most of the content? It's not like MN are paying writers to do groundbreaking investigative journalism or anything.
fucknuckle · 31/08/2020 14:29

i use an adblocker (well, i’ve had to install 3 now to completely stop the ads) and every so often i get a snarky pop-up asking me to
turn my adblocker off.

yeah, no. why would i? i have no emotional connection with mumsnet, Justine isn’t my best mate. why pay for fewer ads when you can get none at all for free?

jokes.

StillCoughingandLaughing · 31/08/2020 14:41

The 'see all' of an OPs posts is really handy, you can get the gist of a long thread quickly without having to read everything.

I have that option and I don’t pay for Premium.

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nancybotwinbloom · 31/08/2020 14:45

I use it on my phone and I never get ads?

I can't work out if it's because I mentally
Skim them or don't get them at all??

I'm not on premium.

StillCoughingandLaughing · 31/08/2020 14:55

I never expected to get an almost unanimous YANBU - but now I really want to know who voted YABU and why! 😁

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Winter2020 · 31/08/2020 15:18

I always wonder aren't digital sites that charge a subscription to go ad free (not just mumsnet but I think some tv catchup sites) afraid of angering their advertisers. If subscription took off and more committed users of the site with higher spending power went ad free surely advertisers wouldn't be willing to continue on the same terms with the prime "spenders" creamed off?

Pikachubaby · 31/08/2020 15:19

I like it that it is a basic site

Don’t mind about the ads, but then I’ve not had Ben’s happy showers add Grin

Nikori · 31/08/2020 15:35

@Pikachubaby

I like it that it is a basic site

Don’t mind about the ads, but then I’ve not had Ben’s happy showers add Grin

What is wrong with you? Don't you want a ticker saying "1 year, 3 months and 4 days since my ickle man was born"?
Pikachubaby · 31/08/2020 16:20

Actually that ticker would be cool Grin

Also I would like being booted off the site if I spend more than an hour a day on it (site goes black and a message flashes up saying “Get a bloody life! “, ....that I would pay for

BeijingBikini · 31/08/2020 16:21

I've never had ads anyway as I've used AdBlock for years. It takes 2 seconds to add onto Chrome for free, then no more ads. I don't know why anyone in this day and age would actively choose to put up with ads or even pay to get rid of them when there are so many options that do it for free......

Xenia · 31/08/2020 16:30

BB, same here and in addition I use Ghostery

diddl · 31/08/2020 16:36

"The 'see all' of an OPs posts is really handy, you can get the gist of a long thread quickly without having to read everything."

Yeah, I like that also.

Although before, if you had Op's posts highlighted it wasn't too onerous to scroll through just their posts.

TheSeedsOfADream · 31/08/2020 16:56

I can "see all" and haven't got premium. I can't quote though. Grin

EggyPegg · 31/08/2020 16:58

I can also See All without premium. It's a standard feature now.

MarshaBradyo · 31/08/2020 16:59

What why can’t you quote Seed? Three dots on post

I can see all too, no premium

IcedPurple · 31/08/2020 17:07

Why is it that some posts have the 'quote' function but others don't?

Shimy · 31/08/2020 17:09

@TheSeedsOfADream

I contemplated it but apart from being able to quote posts back at people (which irritates the fuck out of me anyway as I feel I'm being told off and my posts dissected) I couldn't see what you actually get.
You can do that here too Confused.
diddl · 31/08/2020 17:12

@IcedPurple

Why is it that some posts have the 'quote' function but others don't?
I think if a post has a quote in it, then that post (ie this one) can't be quoted.
ConquestEmpireHungerPlague · 31/08/2020 17:19

I was very hostile to the begging emails and posts back when they launched this and detested the idea of two-tier access. The idea of having access to a special range of offers and competitions because you've paid for it just reinforces the upward spiral of wealth and downward spiral of poverty imo, and though obviously most of capitalist society follows that model, it was obnoxious to me to see MN replicating it when women are so disproportionately affected by poverty and loss of social capital etc. But at the time a lot of people on those threads seemed very sympathetic, and I thought it was just me who was out-of-step and overthinking things. I'm really pleased to see others have viewed it negatively too and I hope @MNHQ take heed of the voting on this thread.

IcedPurple · 31/08/2020 17:19

Yes - that must be it. Which presumably is why I can't quote your post!

diddl · 31/08/2020 17:40

@IcedPurple

Yes - that must be it. Which presumably is why I can't quote your post!
But I can quote yoursGrin

And you won't be able to quote this!

LittleBearPad · 31/08/2020 21:07

I paid the subscription but definitely felt it was a donation rather than a payment for a service - though it’s good having no adverts.

KatherineOfGaunt · 31/08/2020 21:57

@Pikachubaby

Actually that ticker would be cool Grin

Also I would like being booted off the site if I spend more than an hour a day on it (site goes black and a message flashes up saying “Get a bloody life! “, ....that I would pay for

😆😆 Me too!
SabrinaThwaite · 31/08/2020 22:48

It’s a business running at a £2 million profit on the subscription free model.

I’m OK with it being free because I recognise that the users are the product (hence the wholesale Daily Fail lifting).

Why would I pay for it and still be the product?

KrabbyPatties · 31/08/2020 23:02

@ConquestEmpireHungerPlague

Very eloquent post, and yes this is also my views point to a tee.