To be really angry on behalf of teachers

[Jessicabrassica]

I know mumsnet loves a bit of teacher bashing.
I'm really angry that once again the Department for Education has put out guidance for schools in a Friday night before a long weekend with some schools having already started and others back next week.
I cannot imagine how many iterations of risk assessments have already been completed to make schools as safe as possible given the constraints of staff numbers, building size and requirements to get every child back in school.
They are getting enough PPE to tick the box that it's been issued to all schools but not enough to be useful.
Teachers mostly haven't stopped working since the pandemic began. They have continued to teach, to support vulnerable learners, provided meals and good parcels out of school funds in lieu of FSM, they remained open through school holidays for key worker provision.
I really feel that they have been well and truly fucked over, left massively vulnerable and will be left to carry the can for community outbreaks.

I'm a parent and work for the NHS if it's if any consequence.

mrshamlet I have been mocked by several posters (all teachers) here.

well missus I simply do not understand why they weren't in school. I am genuinely puzzled. All our LACs were offered a place. I don't want to derail the thread to your particular case but I am perplexed.

StaffAssociationRepresentative

Its a reference to Bobby Ewing a character from the 1980's soap Dallas.

@Isthisadaggerisee

If only teachers put as much energy into re-opening schools as they seem to complaining about how unfair it all is on them.

Someone else who struggles with reality.

Teachers are putting energy into opening schools. As you'd know if you read reports in newspapers and on TV. But when the rules change at the last minute it becomes problematic. I really don't understand why you choose not to see that.

Or do you just like teacher bashing? Because that's what it looks like.

How can anyone crucify teachers. Thetbhave done their best with limited resources and guidance available. I see the same story developing where NHS staff were told they were misusing PPE. There is no winning in this country if you work in some sectors.

piggy their removal from mum was really traumatic and it would have just been too much for the kids to rock up at a new school where they didn’t know anyone.
At least not immediately.

So we agreed that we’d support home schooling. And honestly, we didn’t need much. We weren’t expecting any Zoom lessons or what have you. But we really really needed their class teachers to at least point us in the right direction - tell us their reading levels maybe (we’d hsbe happily bought books). Just a bit of help.
But they just stonewalled us for weeks.

@HelloMissus

mrshamlet I have been mocked by several posters (all teachers) here.

I haven't seen any, could you point out where, please?

HelloMissus

Like Piggywaspushed I can't answer why your kids didn't get a place in keyworker provision somewhere.

If you still want to follow it up, you could do so through the school, they may or may not have passed your information on.
You could try through the Social Services.

You posted about it being emergency foster care, so has paperwork gone missing somewhere?

Given the situation, I would try and find out more as it could affect their school provision and what help they can access in school.

fly both jup and staff quoted me in their oh-so-funny bingo of stupid parent posts.
And I was told with a ‘lol’ that I can ‘dish it’ but not take it.

This is replies you get about concerns for foster children.

Many, many state Teachers are working part time on full pay with job security and still whinging about how ‘difficult’ it is for them. That’s not going to get them much sympathy in a world where people are struggling to work while educating kids at home, with the threat of job loss ( if it has t happened already) looming over them.
So when posters start a thread on AIBU asking about feeling ‘sorry’ for teachers I don’t think anyone should be surprised if some posters say no, they’re fine actually and should just get on with it like the rest of us.
It’s not teacher ‘bashing’ it’s reality.

I'm surprised, to be honest. Have you been dishing it out? Maybe they felt defensive. There's been an awful lot of it.

The children's social worker should have been supporting you in finding a placement. Maybe you should have a go at them as well.

We are living in extraordinary times and need to cut each other some slack at times.

Must have imagined struggling to do my work while educating kids at home. That only happens to non-teachers.

The OP didn't sat she felt sorry for us.

fripp a placement wasn’t the issue, but it would have been somewhere they’d never been - and that I think would have been too much.

So all we needed was a bit of help with home schooling. Information really.
I just can’t for the life me understand how their class teachers justified ignoring us (and the key worker).

But yeah it will be taken further because going forward you can’t have teachers who don’t give a shit about looked after children in a crisis can you?

say

jupp can speak for themselves but they aren't a teacher.

@HelloMissus

fly both jup and staff quoted me in their oh-so-funny bingo of stupid parent posts. And I was told with a ‘lol’ that I can ‘dish it’ but not take it.

This is replies you get about concerns for foster children.

I'm not a teacher.

Also, you were using your experiences to explain why we shouldn't feel sympathy with any teachers.

I've had problems with individual teachers before, but have managed to recognise that NATALT.

fly she did help.
But we decided together not to take it up (lucky that we were in a position not to have to really).
All we needed was a bit of help. But we got ignored.

@HelloMissus

piggy their removal from mum was really traumatic and it would have just been too much for the kids to rock up at a new school where they didn’t know anyone. At least not immediately.

So we agreed that we’d support home schooling. And honestly, we didn’t need much. We weren’t expecting any Zoom lessons or what have you. But we really really needed their class teachers to at least point us in the right direction - tell us their reading levels maybe (we’d hsbe happily bought books). Just a bit of help.
But they just stonewalled us for weeks.

What do you mean by "support home schooling"?

I ask because I think that this is were your issues arise from.
If you have said that you will home school it means that the school has no responsibility to supply work.

It would shift it to the LEA and you.

I think that you may have been slightly conned in to home schooling.

jupp you took the piss out of my experience trying to get some help with highly vulnerable children.

There’s a saying, if someone tells you who they are listen. Well I listened.

I've had problems with individual teachers before, but have managed to recognise that NATALT.

OMG how have we not had this acronym before?

Also, I'm feeling very grateful to you right now.

@sst1234

If everyone profession had this precious attitude, the whole country would have come to a standstill by now. Get over it, everyone is bored about hearing how hard done by teachers are.

Speak for yoirself.

I could just as well say I'm bored with this type of repetitive spiteful whining.

Isthisadaggerisee I have just spent 6 whole weeks of unpaid leave preparing to go back. I've not had any break because there was too much to get done. How dare you say we haven't put energy into the reopening when lots of us have given up our whole leave to ensure everything is prepared and ready to welcome the children back.

fripp both kids were in a terrible state when they arrived.
To access the hub - where the kids had never been and didn’t know anyone, and - not a great idea.
So we agreed to home school.
All we needed was a bit of communication from their teachers. Basic info.
But they wouldn’t answer us or social services.

@noblegiraffe

I've had problems with individual teachers before, but have managed to recognise that NATALT.

OMG how have we not had this acronym before?

Also, I'm feeling very grateful to you right now.

I feel grateful to you too, as one if the voices of sanity throughout all this madness.

What was this thread about again?

Oh yes, the crappy DfE & how they have once again let teachers, parents and children down.