To be really angry on behalf of teachers

[Jessicabrassica]

I know mumsnet loves a bit of teacher bashing.
I'm really angry that once again the Department for Education has put out guidance for schools in a Friday night before a long weekend with some schools having already started and others back next week.
I cannot imagine how many iterations of risk assessments have already been completed to make schools as safe as possible given the constraints of staff numbers, building size and requirements to get every child back in school.
They are getting enough PPE to tick the box that it's been issued to all schools but not enough to be useful.
Teachers mostly haven't stopped working since the pandemic began. They have continued to teach, to support vulnerable learners, provided meals and good parcels out of school funds in lieu of FSM, they remained open through school holidays for key worker provision.
I really feel that they have been well and truly fucked over, left massively vulnerable and will be left to carry the can for community outbreaks.

I'm a parent and work for the NHS if it's if any consequence.

I agree OP. I'm not sure why people are suggesting you wanted schools shut etc. Some teachers have taken the piss, for sure. Others haven't. Irrespective of this, it is appalling to issue guidance this late - there has been no info that revolutionary to prevent earlier guidance. I think a bit of gratitude and understanding towards teachers wouldn't go amiss - they are working in a much more vulnerable position than most other occupations (who should also have gratitude extended towards them).

MilesJuppIsMyBitch

Disclaimer: this list is not comprehensive, and I am not a teacher.

But you have a fantastic user name so we will let you off. @)

and I forgot to mention the time spent completing the CAGs for my subject grades at GCSE and A Level which the OFQUAL/DfE mutant algorithm then cocked up.

@Jimtimjimtim

Teachers need to get a grip, things change, sometimes quickly and unexpectedly, as with many jobs. They seem to be looking for any excuse not to go back to classroom teaching which would be okay if they were providing an alternative but they aren’t. Somehow the private schools have all managed to teach almost full hours during lockdown despite facing the exact same challenges. Is it helpful for the DofE to change guidance frequently? No. Should teachers stop whining? Yes.

This is such bollocks yet again from this poster who seems unable to read or comprehend what;'s being said.

Not one teacher is looking for an excuse not to go back into the classroom on this thread. Why are you making things up? It makes you look a bit simple.

Do teachers deserve better? Yes.

Should you stop fabricating? Also yes.

What schools in england are back ? None round here have students back until about 7th sept onwards

@Notfeelinggreattoday schools in Leicester went back last week, others will be starting next week. Other schools have inset days next week to discuss the school plans, so not very handy if they have to change those plans.

The “teacher bashing” claims and poor teachers post make me think it’s unlikely you’re not a teacher op. Sorry but teachers need to play their part in society same as everyone else

All the teacher bashers, please draw up a last minute plan for a new complicated 4 tier rota system that didn't exist until last night.

You have ZERO days to do it and the guidance you have been given still isn't complete.

See the problem?

Leicestershire, apparently.

5th September for me

Schools in Leicestershire are already back

@SlipperSwan and remember they can't spend any money

@CayrolBaaaskin

The “teacher bashing” claims and poor teachers post make me think it’s unlikely you’re not a teacher op. Sorry but teachers need to play their part in society same as everyone else

Can you explain exactly how I (and my colleagues in school and on here) have NOT been "playing our part in society" already?

Or are you talking cliched shit, like a few others on here?

'teachers need to play their part in society' Moaning', 'crack on', 'snowflakes', 'whining', 'get a grip', 'paid with our money', 'don't live in the real world', 'teachers just love to sodding moan',

This is the thread that keeps on giving.

I hope all you teachers are listening and are suitably ashamed.

(Thanks Fripp )

Teachers are playing our part. We've been in school working full time and trying not to react when people with extremely low levels of intelligence claim we haven't been. My colleagues and I must have imagined the 300 children in our school then?

Schools are already open in Leiectershire. We're all going back next week. What we'd like is for the government to play their part and actually release the guidance in time so that we avoid exam/covid/staffing catatrophes.

The blame lies at the government's door. For all of it.

Dear God. The stupidity on this thread is beyond...beyond beyond.

Wake up, parents! You are bitching and bitching and bitching again at teachers and ignoring what just happened. You want the schools open? You want to be able to go to work and not worry about schools closing? You want to be able to resume as normal as possible a life over the winter months? You want to do that safely at minimum risk to you and the older members of your family?

The Department for Education just updated their guidelines with a section about the provision of home learning/remote learning. The Government has just openly admitted that it recognises home learning is likely to be a thing in the coming months. So ask questions about that rather than once again shooting out all that trite you don't want to open schools/you hate children/you are shit at your job/why don't you resign shite we've been reading on here for months and months now?

The Government has just told you - in a roundabout way - that we are unlikely to get through the coming months without closures/that schools are not really that safe an environment if you want to avoid us all getting the virus. Focus on that.

It’s a pain to receive guidelines so late but it’s going to keep happening I think.
There will be lots of last minute changes in most settings.
That said I fear how my foster children’s schools and teachers would react to 10 weeks notice - nothing about their behaviour since March tells me they have much interest.

Nottingham I think is back on the 2 Sept

@ukgift2016 @D4rwin - such nastiness. You'll be the first to complain when teachers haven't read page 241 of the new regulations. Teachers are being treated appallingly.

Why tar all teachers/school staff with the same brush? Every industry has those who don't play their part!!
The main fact here is the continual moving of the goalposts! Yes I get we are in a pandemic but perhaps just think things through a bit more
I've lost count of how many times the risk assessments must have been rewritten.

@SlipperSwan but realistically every business had to do that at the beginning , suddenly adapt and rules changed etc , my dh does a job that involves contact with people ,during lockdown they had to still try and deliver a service but within guidelines , he had to take on a new role for a month something totally different to what he normally does , lots of places have had to do this.
Agree dept if education have had weeks though and should of got this out before all schools went back , bit my ds school going back almost a week later than should of been so could all schools not of done this ?

Well said Enough!

Yes the Tier system has been introduced late in the day, but it is talking about a situation which may arise in the coming weeks, not days. They have plenty of time to implement strategies.

I'm off to do rl stuff now, but will definitely pop back later to update my list of boring tropes excoriating put-downs.

Keep up the good work! Don't let those lazy teachers relax!

@Enoughnowstop - we keep explaining that we follow DfE guidelines but they refuse to listen. This is why I hate the incompetent twats at the DfE - their stupidity is making life difficult for school staff

@Notfeelinggreattoday schools open to children on the 2nd of September in our area