To ask whah the salary should be for this position?

[Londoner90]

So I’m just going to list a few things here so you get a better idea:

• retail showroom manager
• central London
• selling luxury products (as in if you have to as how much things are you can’t afford it)
• small team so busy busy busy
• driving sales
• loads of admin
• displays/new product launches
• small company so you got to cover others if they are on holiday
• general showroom running crap
• you need great interpersonal skills
• full time 40hrs/week

How much do you think this person should be earning ?

In the current economic climate, probably best to focus on whether the organisation stays afloat rather than calculating whether you're likely to be offered a generous salary review.

No one sell what we sell
So why do you think randoms on the Internet can tell you the going rate? Do you think you're underpaid?

Specific requests?! I have specific requests when I go into John Lewis.

Good god are you going to tell us the salary or not??

Ps: I have no idea why some people comment on threads that adds nothing constructive to it. Like what’s your point?! Don’t like the thread?! Then move on !!! 🙄

To be fair - you’ve not told us anything much constructive yourself.

It’s a bit like one of those threads - someone did something which wasn’t right, should I complain? I can’t say what it was as it’s too outing.

And yes good luck to you. Recession/depression incoming - a kind and sensible company might say 'we'd rather keep as many of you on as possible rather than give anyone a payrise'. Hope you keep your job

@Doggybiccys that's so rude and unnecessary.

OP, please put us out of our misery and tell us what you are roughly currently on and what you think you should be put up to. I wouldnt normally ask someone their salary but you have started a thread entirely around it so feel comfortable with my question

If it's similar to art, then the sector average is really low. Art galleries expect you to have Daddy around to pay for your flat while you're starting out. I'd say max £30k.

@Cherrybalm - what is?

@Doggybiccys

You are coming across as a bit dim OP so maybe you shouldn’t be earning a high salary (not saying those on low salaries are dim but OP clearly thinks they should be earning a fortune )

Why be so unpleasant?

I think the problem is that art curation and sales is one of those sectors where the degree of knowledge and training required isn't necessarily reflected in salaries because a lot of people want to do it and a lot of those people don't need the money... You'd think being a museum curator, which often requires a PhD and then further specialist training, would pay well. You'd be wrong. On the other hand, your set-up sounds a lot more commercial than a gallery, so perhaps it doesn't quite fall into that category. So again only you know!

Realistically, if you already work there then there's only so much of a shift you can expect from your current salary. You can reasonably argue for a raise, but they're not going to double it even if that might be fair, and even if it might be what it would cost them to hire someone new for your position. Also, it doesn't exactly sound like a recession-proof sector? In which case you might want to be cautious at the moment.

I'd say 30k and I imagine you are actually the employer not employee seeing what you can get away with now one of the candidates has unexpectedly turned up more qualified than you expected. So in Art, valuations, private commissions including home visits for art selection 15-30k max but the average would be around 26-28k hope that helps

Why ask a load of random people on the internet?

40K

@Doggybiccys the comment about being dim and not deserving a higher salary because of it.

I don't think the fact that a degree is required has any impact on the salary. There are many low paid jobs requiring a degree or similar course. Especially in the arts related fields, and in sales I would imagine the basic salary could be lower due to expected commission.

The bottom line is, unless in something like the NHS with set bands, an employer pays what they have to/can pay to get the person they want. If you already work there you have to assess your worth to them.

It's a perfectly valid question. - except the position is clearly not a shop assistant, and for you to suggest that anyone who works in any kind of sales or retail is a 'shop assistant' is disingenuous and rude. And snooty.

About 70k

My salary is at 30k at the moment. I think I should be getting 35-38k... my degree is design related and you could probably have someone who isn’t qualified and let them learn on the job but I think you would struggle for a quite while...

I appreciate the current situation affects jobs but in all honesty we barely had a scratch on our sales since Covid ... it really hasn’t affected us much ( not being big headed, I’m super lucky and greatful that I have a job like this)
My salary is due to be reviewed, Covid or no Covid , I think it’s worth to have the chat... worst case they tell me I can’t have a raise 🤷🏻‍♀️

@Kia123456

About 70k

I doubt it.

@IvyEf

Specific requests?! I have specific requests when I go into John Lewis.

Haha, that's not quite what I meant.

OP I have a good idea what you're talking about, but my idea of salary is probably a few years out. It's difficult isn't it. I worked somewhere like this and it's was so specialist that it was very difficult to compare. I don't think you'll get the answers you need here tbh.

@Londoner90

My salary is at 30k at the moment. I think I should be getting 35-38k... my degree is design related and you could probably have someone who isn’t qualified and let them learn on the job but I think you would struggle for a quite while... I appreciate the current situation affects jobs but in all honesty we barely had a scratch on our sales since Covid ... it really hasn’t affected us much ( not being big headed, I’m super lucky and greatful that I have a job like this) My salary is due to be reviewed, Covid or no Covid , I think it’s worth to have the chat... worst case they tell me I can’t have a raise 🤷🏻‍♀️

And £30k is not enough, I was thinking £40k+, especially as it's London

(are you a North London studio/showroom? By any chance?)

There is no way they'll give you an £8k (20 odd per cent) pay raise. If you suggest £35k maybe they'll meet you halfway if they like you? How long have you been there? That will make a difference. There will be someone else who can do your job and will take it for £29k.

I agree, it was probably pointless to start this thread but I have been researching, thinking and thought why not ask on Mumsnet... Well I’ll keep everything crossed for next week and see what they say.

Also - difficult time of year for a pay review?? Usually happens for the new financial year and budgeting?