to think the BBC has had it's day and it really is over now?

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Obviously this debate has been rumbling for years, but it seems to me that the tide has turned very quickly in recent months.

They genuinely do not seem to represent anyone well, and the license fee model is just so broken and irrelevant to how we now consume our art, news and content.

It remains a great idea (possibly fundamental to a civilised society) to have a non-biased media outlet, but the BBC just do not seem up to the job.

Does anyone still feel they are a reliable source of news? Does anyone agree with the license fee model? Can we not get their type of content elsewhere, by choice?

I dont see them as a reliable source of news anymore. They are just another tool used by this government and as for Dan Walker on breakfast FML

The license fee only applies to live television and their iPlayer platform. Are you talking about all the BBC (i.e. radio, TV, music, websites) or just TV?

I don't have a TV and so don't pay the license fee.

I do read BBC news and sometimes listen to the radio when driving.

I still watch a lot of programs on it so I would disagree, and I listen to a lot of their podcasts too.

I love how there isn't any ad breaks ( for now) but I do feel they will have to go down this route eventually or they will just put it all on I player and make people pay for that instead of a licence fee ( like Netflix do)
There is much more diversity than ever before with their choice of news presenters and that's a good thing and I like some of their comedies and Eastenders but mostly I haven't watched a lot of tv as it's been a bit boring because of the covid situation.
I'm looking forward to the new Strike drama this weekend though.
I'm not sure about it's future. I like the bbc radio stations and I'd be sad if they were to stop. Five live is good and radio 2.

Has there not been a thread on here about the number of women who have been criminalised because they can’t afford the license fee?

I don’t know the figures, but that seems like a good reason to get rid of it.

BBC TV News - totally lost its way and had its day. Has become depressingly lightweight and superficial. Adult TV - yes. Children's TV - no. Radio - most definitely not. No commercial channels come anywhere near the quality of Radio 4/5/6 Music. Which is presumably why Times Radio has been launched - to chip away at the BBC radio offer.

I think it's a good idea in theory but I don't agree with how the licence money is spent. Too much is splurged on talentless 'talent' and I just get the impression they're all a load of back-slapping luvvies enjoying a gravy-train.

My guess is that more and more people will turn to ways of viewing that don't need a licence and eventually the BBC will collapse because not enough people are funding it.

Yawn. Be careful of what you wish for. Lockdown reminded me how great the BBC is at what it does and I only listen to the radio.

I rely on R4 and R6 when I’m home. I get all news from R4 and don’t bother with tv news.

I’m not that fussed about tv but care v much about non commercial radio with good programmes such as More or Less or Life Scientific (don’t listen to radio dramas).

Plus the music on R6 is what I like

Their main headline on the website today included the phrase "trumpier than Trump".

I would find that funny in, say, the Onion or Private Eye. But honestly, I expect a more serious tone from the BBC.

@DancingCatGif

Their main headline on the website today included the phrase "trumpier than Trump".

I would find that funny in, say, the Onion or Private Eye. But honestly, I expect a more serious tone from the BBC.

Yes, I thought that was a poor headline.

There's far too much celebrity shite on their website now. If I wanted to know what celebrities were doing, I'd buy a copy of Hello magazine.

Like any massive organisation they will have good and bad bits. Like others have said, I think they were brilliant during lockdown. However the news output is shocking and I think helped Brexit by not putting forward the actual facts and reality of leaving.

I think the BBC should stay but some departments need a big kick up the arse.

I like the BBC and I like the idea that it is publicly funded. Much of what it does isn’t replicated elsewhere- children’s, radio, much of what is on BBC4. BBC3 online also has some interesting stuff. No other channel would have created and made the education programmes that the BBC did in lockdown. I pay the licence willingly. There aren’t enough advertisers who will fund another commercial channel. The other commercial channels are already in dire straits due to Covid.

Yep I really dislike the BBC have thought this for about 5 or so years now. But I do like a few of the radio channels so...

I was reading it has become more dumbed down, it seems quite sensationalised at times (never used to be) Not sure what is causing this.

Gosh, always surprised by this. Am a big fan of the beeb. The kids are 3 & 5 so still loving cbeebies (particularly hey duggee for me). We all love nature documentaries (Sir Attenborough for King), springwatch, Stacey Dooley documentaries, British comedy from BBC3, just watched I may destroy you, um trying to think what else there has been, usually enjoy the dramas, his dark materials was good, obvious older things like line of duty. I listen to my local bbc radio station at breakfast often, and also radio 2 at lunch time often. Maybe I'm unusual! I do see it as an institution.

The BBC and particularly BBC radio is in my view a really fundamental part of our society. It sets the standard for debate, news and entertainment. We need to keep it as a priority. I agree that Netflix and Amazon do some really good stuff, but we would lose so much without it.

Oh and I have radio 4 on in the car too.

Well they've definitely lost their bias.

Just the stock of pictures re schools that are all lies they've printed this week is enough to tell you that.

Their non bias that should say!

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Well they've definitely lost their bias.

Just the stock of pictures re schools that are all lies they've printed this week is enough to tell you that.

What lies?

I became disillusioned when I realised how heavily they edit the news, how much they choose deliberately to manipulate. Women's rights issues opened my eyes to it, now I see it more widely and I can't unsee it.

The mandate to educate the public seems to have become indoctrinate the public. I don't want that kind of state media.

Perhaps they only need to replace some news el editors (or one news editor) with an unbiased one.

I like a lot of BBC content - radio, news website, drama like Line of Duty and new writing like I May Destroy You. There is some BBC output I don’t like or don’t watch, but I don’t think it should be axed because of that. I reckon it does a pretty good job of something for everyone - tho always room for improvement. I hear criticism of news output/politics from both the left and right...which suggests to me they’re doing impartiality pretty well. YABU.

CBeebies and CBBC are pretty good, but a lot of their 'classics' are just repeats that are now available elsewhere anyway. I would happily pay though a monthly fee for being able to access just those channels than expecting everyone to subsidise every channel even though many won't watch them. The news isn't impartial anymore, a lot of the dramas are okay but would be picked up elsewhere no doubt, and there are so many radio stations that it's become a bit of a jack of all trades, master of none.