Pet driving hates. What gets your goat?

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For me it's lorries in the middle lane on motorways, driving parallel to another. Yes I know they have deadlines, but miles and miles side by side? 😡

@EveryDayIsADuvetDay

I'm still LOL at the idea of a horse patiently logging in online to arrange its tax and insurance.

Cars are so much better at doing their own 😉

Cyclists. If a car driver hits a cyclist they are assumed to be at fault and a life destroying sequence of events unfolds, including prosecution for dangerous driving and the wrath of the cyclist’s family. Even if the cyclist clearly had no helmet or safety gear, no lights, and no road safety training. Even if the cyclist was failing to signal or look over their shoulder and literally just rode out in front of the car.

Imo cyclists should be required to wear helmets and undertake training, and under 18s should be forbidden from cycling on any road with a speed limit above 30mph.

@SorrelBlackbeak

Anyone paying road tax now should probably contact the DVLA to hand their licence back, given that it was abolished in 1937. Since then, roads have been paid for from general taxation.

Vehicles now pay vehicle excise duty which is based on emission levels of your vehicle. If you're driving a tiny electric car, you pay no VED. If you're driving a massive new v8 Range Rover you pay lots of VED because of the emission levels of that car.

Road tax is something that permits you to use roads

Tourists driving through the beautiful Scottish highlands at 25 miles per hour to admire the view. For god’s sake just stop in one of the many lay-bys, stretch your legs and have a proper look. We got stuck for miles in a huge queue of cars behind two people carriers, presumably in convoy, so close together that you had to find a space to overtake both, which isn’t easy on a twisty, undulating road. Not everyone has never seen a mountain before, some of us actually want to get somewhere before the end of the day. Even worse, they were the special type of total idiots that speed up every time the road gets straight, even while people are actually overtaking. Makes you long for an anti-tank gun.

Totally agree @Akindelle I’ve nearly hit a cyclist at a roundabout. It was night time, he was wearing dark clothes, no lights, he was invisible.
They must presume that because they can see us cars with all our lovely lights against the night sky that we must be able to see them with no lights and black/dark grey/navy/brown clothes on! Where I live there are so many dark lanes with a 50/60 mph speed limit without street lights, they’re just oblivious to the danger they’re in.

So does petrol. Should cyclists and horses have to buy that too?

I totally agree with the fact that cyclists should wear hi-vis (preferably at all times but definitely at night), but I also think pedestrians should wear it in winter, too. People moan and say drivers must be blind if they can't see them but I think it's a nonsense. My eyesight is fine, but it's much easier to see someone early if they are in light/hi-vis colours.

However, this was supposed to be pet "driving" hates. The only reason drivers hate cyclists is because they have to slow down. They do do stupid things but they'll only hurt themselves, whereas if a driver does something stupid they could kill other innocent people. I have a much bigger problem with drivers who text while driving than I do with cyclists who run the odd red light.

"Road tax is something that permits you to use the roads"

What on earth gives you that idea? This amount of wilful ignorance makes my head hurt.

Tourists driving through the beautiful Scottish highlands at 25 miles per hour to admire the view

Oh yes, I've experienced this too. But you've reminded me of all the w**kers who go past Stonehenge and stop to take selfies and create massive traffic jams. Yes you have two/three lanes going into one in one direction and a roundabout in the other, which cause hold-ups, but people would move much more quickly if people just drove past. I favour a minimum speed limit with a Speed-like explosion if people drop below it (though as my DH pointed out, it might be a bit bothersome having to get past all the debris) so maybe a fence would be better.

Road tax is something that permits you to use the roads

People who blast their horn when someone does something mildly irritating, cuts in, etc. IMO, if you have a hand free to blast the horn, then all you had to do was adjust your driving, and if you truly have to take evasive action then you’ll be too busy to toot

My mum says if you have time to beep you have time to brake.

However, on occasion there is definitely scope to do both Since she said that I have made a conscious effort not to beep for irritating things though, not least because as a pedestrian I find it massively irritating when drivers are beeping each other.

Finally, people who don't lower their full beams on dark roads when they're either behind you or coming towards you

Oh you've found another one of mine. Although I think some of them come on and off automatically and the machine doesn't react as quickly as a person would to a car coming towards it.

So many drivers stop dead at the roundabout despite being able to clearly see nothing is coming and then there's the ones that don't go when they have priority and then do go when they don't

Although Hampshire County Council has decided that you have to stop, even when you can see, and has installed barriers on certain roundabouts to remove visibility so you can't see. Surely visibility should be as good as possible? Nope, Hampshire Highways don't think so. The best example I can think of, for anyone local, is the junction 5 roundabout for the M3 if you are coming from the Odiham/Farnham direction.

People who are obviously so shit at parking that they are unable to use the village car park, a 2 minute walk from primary school. I assume this is why they use the yellow zig zags outside school instead.

Impatient drivers who can’t cope with my inability to see around blind bends when stuck behind a cyclist on a country road. Yes, it’s mildly annoying that they are doing 20 mph and I yes, have to be at work too. I still can’t see round the sodding bend, and neither can you, you arse.

Sometimes that's down to the car though. My best friend has a little 1L Aygo and it takes forever to get up to motorway speed.

So do I and it really really doesn't. It only would if the slip road was a steep hill up and I've never seen one of those.

People who don't say thank you!

...you've let them past, and a nice little wave or indication via the lights to show appreciation is all that's needed.

In a town, when you stop to let one car out and 20 million cars behind them all follow without indicating thanks

When cars are parked both sides of the road and it's a moot point whose right of way it is, cars that just continue driving at you at normal speed, forcing you to reverse or pull in, and usually not thanking you.

Cars that squish/drive too fast past runners & cyclists

Cologne you’ve just reminded me of another one of mine. People who don’t use (dipped) headlights in daytime fog or heavy rain, because their lights haven’t turned on automatically. Stupidity doesn’t make you anymore visible, I’m afraid.

Tailgaters.

People who slam on to let someone out of a junction.

People who don't position themselves well when turning.

People who won't do the speed limit in good conditions.

My friend who always stops at a roundabout when there is someone to her left, confusing the shit out of the person on her left.

People who think they can squeeze through gaps that they can't - including the woman who tried to squeeze past the long queue for the roundabout because she wanted to turn right and went right down the side of my car.

If a car driver hits a cyclist they are assumed to be at fault and a life destroying sequence of events unfolds, including prosecution for dangerous driving and the wrath of the cyclist’s family. Even if the cyclist clearly had no helmet or safety gear, no lights, and no road safety training. Even if the cyclist was failing to signal or look over their shoulder and literally just rode out in front of the car.

You don’t need “safety gear” to safely ride a bike. You need unaggressive, patient, grown-up, informed, safe motorists.

As for an assumption of motorist guilt, that’s certainly not the case in the UK, at least legally. In countries where it is, there are fewer cyclist deaths, as they take more care.

There is too much aggression on the roads, and in this thread.

To reinforce wejusts point. Even if the cyclist clearly had no helmet or safety gear, they are not responsible for poor driving.

And no, women who wear short skirts aren't responsible for being attacked either

This isn't the thread I hoped it would be.

Pet hates driving. What gets YOUR goat?
Cue lots of people posting to say what about their pet goats.

I'm so sad now

Ooh, another one...anyone on the A303 driving past Stonehenge who stops to TAKE A PHOTO even though it's single carriageway. You arsewipes literally bring the traffic to a standstill going both ways.

@SorrelBlackbeak

Anyone paying road tax now should probably contact the DVLA to hand their licence back, given that it was abolished in 1937. Since then, roads have been paid for from general taxation.

Vehicles now pay vehicle excise duty which is based on emission levels of your vehicle. If you're driving a tiny electric car, you pay no VED. If you're driving a massive new v8 Range Rover you pay lots of VED because of the emission levels of that car.

I think this is over-the-top pedantry. Sure, VED might be its official name, but there's nothing wrong in colloquially calling it "road tax" - it's an amount that you are obliged to pay to an agency of the government and you only pay it if you have a vehicle that you wish to take on the road.

Even the government website calls it a tax: note the web address www.gov.uk/vehicle-tax

Some of us even call it the "tax disc", even though the discs were scrapped years ago .