Media blackout on marches happening today

[orangesnapples]

Is it me or is it not very strange that 1000s of people currently marching though our major cities today and no media coverage?

They are marching for our children's rights, to awareness to trafficking etc

Does the lack of coverage just play into the hands of those that accuse the media of being part of the problem.

They are currently peacefully marching to bring awareness because there sadly is hardly any awareness of trafficking, most people have the completely strep typical idea of what trafficking is, that is all some world wide elite club.
But the sad truth it looks very different, and is probably happening in a home near you right now.

So why no coverage. My SM is flooded with 1000s I f people walking the streets of Liverpool, London etc.

I don't want to believe there is darkness in control of our media and what we see etc but honestly I can't think for the life of me why this isn't being covered.

Also, lots of people are extremely concerned about Jon Wedger, Belinda McKenzie, Brian Gerrish, Bill Maloney and the various other conspiracy theorists involved in these protests.

I am not the only activist against them, I have linked to the Hoaxtead Research blog, Riddled blog and Quatloos as there is a mine of information there for anyone who is interested.

link to an archived page of the La Rouche cult here

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more on the La Rouche cult here

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www.hamhigh.co.uk/news/crime-court/shadowy-world-of-larouche-the-far-right-cult-that-hides-behind-veil-of-left-wing-political-movement-1-4091305

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I am not claiming that the La Rouche cult is behind the recent protests, simply pointing out the similarity of the narratives promoted by the protest organisers and the La Rouche cult, with anti-British narratives being central to both

There’s marches and protests every other day of the week about something or other in the city I live. I honestly don’t even look at the billboards any more. I work in the media and unless it’s specifically topical then they won’t cover ever protest.

@hoodathunkit

Freemen of the Land are hilarious. They're the kind of people who regularly feature in the Angry People in Local Newspapers Facebook group.

Indeed. Many are vulnerable people groomed and taken advantage of by grifters, some are grifters and some are also very dangerous and can get involved in violent / terrorist activity.

For a PCC to be involved with the ITNJ is scandalous.

Also, good golly, where did you find all this stuff?!

I did not ask to be an activist. The only option avaliable to me was to struggle against this shit.

I had a number of really traumatic, disturbing yet educational experiences that are highly relevent to these networks. Many of my experiences made no sense at the time, however by retaining curiosity and a capacity to think (not always easy) I developed finely honed skills at following the trails they leave.

It is my absolute pleasure to expose them in any way I can. Also they are dangerous and pose a threat to our democracy and to vulnerable people.

One of the truly horrifying things about the people coordinating these "save our kids" type events is their own predatory, ruthless behaviour and their connections to paedophiles.

I might have to give it a rest for today, am exhausted but will post again as soon as I can

Thanks. You sound like a good friend of mine who got sucked down the conspiracy rabbit hole, managed to get out with the help of therapy and is now actively against it.

We've had the Freemen Of TL nutters on Mumsnet in the past

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/2095211-to-think-the-common-law-freeman-on-the-land-thing-is-a-whole-load-of-bollocks

The more florid posts - FUll oF RANdom capITAls - were deleted iirc

I know

You sound like a good friend of mine who got sucked down the conspiracy rabbit hole, managed to get out with the help of therapy and is now actively against it.

Thanks for the flowers :)

I've never been a conspiracy theorist other than in relation to real, mundane, criminal conspiracies. I know a lot about abusive cults, therapy cults especially.

I had very bad experiences with various therapists / psychologists (all tangentially linked to the Carl Beech case), one of whom spent some time attempting to get me to believe I had been abused by a satanic cult.

According to one therapist the fact that I had no memories of being in a satanic cult was evidence that I had been involved but had repressed the memories because it was too traumatic.

It is deeply concerning to me that there are so many NHS mental health professionals who genuinely believe that the UK is a hotbed of satanic activity.

At no time did I believe any of this bullshit. I was, for much of the time, conflicted between feeling deeply traumatised and disturbed, yet also very, very curious and fascinated by how people could believe such things.

This is one of the most influential batshit satan hunters Valerie Sinason

Like many satan hunters she worked at the Tavistock Centre in London

She is involved at a senior level in many charities and other organisations working with vulnerable people.

Yet she is a very dangerous, deluded person who has been exposed by Private Eye magazine, the Observer, the Independent and many other publications.

The South London and Maudsley Trust is also a breeding ground for satan hunting quacks and between the SLAM and the Tavi they manage to cause a lot of havoc and damage to vulnerable people and to tear apart completely innocent families.

Many of the actors involved in these protests have tangential links to Sinason, for example Jon Wedger has made various videos with the SRA promoting anti-abortion campaigner Wilfred Wong. Wong claims that abortions are a front for satanic rituals in which babies are murdered and eaten. Wong is a long time associate of Sinason.

When you have had these people on your radar long enough you get to see how they are all connected.

Woops. I know for a fact that one of our local paedophile hunters is reinventing himself. He has done time for right wing racial hate crime and is currently saying on his posts that he has far left beliefs.
I also know that he is a nasty misogynist who treats women with utter contempt and cruelty during sex. I can't say too much here but I know what he does, he is hard as nails, a hard drug user and very Tommy Robinson in his behaviour and attitudes and but he is now seen as a hero.
I am unable to take him on or his fans, many of whom are my friends.
His accomplice is also very nasty, ex football hooligan. His connections are definite fascist types. This movement become his life now.
They possibly both have a history of abuse in their childhood which explains their stance here but they are nasty fuckers as adults and their faces are all over this current hashtag regarding the saving of our kids.

@hoodathunkit

You sound like a good friend of mine who got sucked down the conspiracy rabbit hole, managed to get out with the help of therapy and is now actively against it.

Thanks for the flowers :)

I've never been a conspiracy theorist other than in relation to real, mundane, criminal conspiracies. I know a lot about abusive cults, therapy cults especially.

I had very bad experiences with various therapists / psychologists (all tangentially linked to the Carl Beech case), one of whom spent some time attempting to get me to believe I had been abused by a satanic cult.

According to one therapist the fact that I had no memories of being in a satanic cult was evidence that I had been involved but had repressed the memories because it was too traumatic.

It is deeply concerning to me that there are so many NHS mental health professionals who genuinely believe that the UK is a hotbed of satanic activity.

At no time did I believe any of this bullshit. I was, for much of the time, conflicted between feeling deeply traumatised and disturbed, yet also very, very curious and fascinated by how people could believe such things.

This is one of the most influential batshit satan hunters Valerie Sinason

Like many satan hunters she worked at the Tavistock Centre in London

She is involved at a senior level in many charities and other organisations working with vulnerable people.

Yet she is a very dangerous, deluded person who has been exposed by Private Eye magazine, the Observer, the Independent and many other publications.

The South London and Maudsley Trust is also a breeding ground for satan hunting quacks and between the SLAM and the Tavi they manage to cause a lot of havoc and damage to vulnerable people and to tear apart completely innocent families.

Many of the actors involved in these protests have tangential links to Sinason, for example Jon Wedger has made various videos with the SRA promoting anti-abortion campaigner Wilfred Wong. Wong claims that abortions are a front for satanic rituals in which babies are murdered and eaten. Wong is a long time associate of Sinason.

When you have had these people on your radar long enough you get to see how they are all connected.

Wow. Lots to take in. Is the Tavistock centre closed now? Anything to do with this?

I also know that he is a nasty misogynist who treats women with utter contempt and cruelty during sex. I can't say too much here but I know what he does, he is hard as nails, a hard drug user and very Tommy Robinson in his behaviour and attitudes and but he is now seen as a hero.
I am unable to take him on or his fans, many of whom are my friends.
His accomplice is also very nasty, ex football hooligan. His connections are definite fascist types. This movement become his life now.

You are describing many of the people involved in this fairly accurately.

There are many violent, deeply unpleasant people involved including lots on the far-right, DFLA, Tommy Robinson supporters and the like.

Many of the "pedo-hunters" involved have connections to paedophiles too. For example Wedger is good friends with convicted murderer and former Krays enforcer Chris Lambrianou. He also promoted and referred vulnerable people to the jesus Army, a vile cult that collapsed following a child sexual abuse scandal.

Belinda McKenzie and Brian Gerrish both have links to convicted paedophiles.

Once you start to research these networks it is very quickly apparent that there are dangerous and predatory people involved in them.

Wow. Lots to take in. Is the Tavistock centre closed now? Anything to do with this?

There are several subsidiary organisations linked to what is now the Tavistock and Portman NHS Trust that are of concern to me.

Having said that there are I think good, decent people working at the Tavi. It is a curate's egg, like so many things. Nuanced.

Possibly the most concerning organisation is the Clinic for Dissociative Studies, founded by Sinason and one of the main organisations promoting the satanic panic in the UK today.

The clinic treats people diagnosed with dissociative disorders including dissociative identity disorder (DID) formerly multiple personality disorder (MPD).

The complete lack of professional boundaries demonstrated by people working at the clinic can be seen very clearly in the documentary Becoming Pamela which can be seen on youtube

In the documentary an extremely vulnerable adult, Pamela Edwards, is exhibited by her various carers for the education of the viewers.

Pamela's "foster mother" in the documentary Judy Williams was also working with the clinic at the time, thus demonstrating the clinic's flexible approach to dual roles and professional boundaries (or lack thereof)

the "Valerie" character referred to but never seen is Sinason

Judy Williams is a very interesting character indeed

@famousforwrongreason

Woops. I know for a fact that one of our local paedophile hunters is reinventing himself. He has done time for right wing racial hate crime and is currently saying on his posts that he has far left beliefs. I also know that he is a nasty misogynist who treats women with utter contempt and cruelty during sex. I can't say too much here but I know what he does, he is hard as nails, a hard drug user and very Tommy Robinson in his behaviour and attitudes and but he is now seen as a hero. I am unable to take him on or his fans, many of whom are my friends. His accomplice is also very nasty, ex football hooligan. His connections are definite fascist types. This movement become his life now. They possibly both have a history of abuse in their childhood which explains their stance here but they are nasty fuckers as adults and their faces are all over this current hashtag regarding the saving of our kids.

Tommy Robinson is a woman-beating piece of crap so I'm not surprised plenty of his followers are misogynists too. I'm sick of him taking the credit for work done by survivors. I mean, the prick encouraged his followers to jam a domestic violence hotline because it offered support to Muslim women.

@hoodathunkit

I also know that he is a nasty misogynist who treats women with utter contempt and cruelty during sex. I can't say too much here but I know what he does, he is hard as nails, a hard drug user and very Tommy Robinson in his behaviour and attitudes and but he is now seen as a hero. *I am unable to take him on or his fans, many of whom are my friends. His accomplice is also very nasty, ex football hooligan. His connections are definite fascist types. This movement become his life now.*

You are describing many of the people involved in this fairly accurately.

There are many violent, deeply unpleasant people involved including lots on the far-right, DFLA, Tommy Robinson supporters and the like.

Many of the "pedo-hunters" involved have connections to paedophiles too. For example Wedger is good friends with convicted murderer and former Krays enforcer Chris Lambrianou. He also promoted and referred vulnerable people to the jesus Army, a vile cult that collapsed following a child sexual abuse scandal.

Belinda McKenzie and Brian Gerrish both have links to convicted paedophiles.

Once you start to research these networks it is very quickly apparent that there are dangerous and predatory people involved in them.

The EDL had paedophiles in their ranks and Robinson was perfectly happy to shelter them. I think one reason why the far right obsess over paedophiles is projection. Someone compiled a list of far right paedophiles and it was very long. They're pretty dysfunctional people.

And no, before anyone asks, I'm not talking Tories, I'm talking Combat 18 and the like.

This article is about Judy Williams

www.thejc.com/news/uk/payout-for-hospital-gestapo-slur-victim-1.21458

There is archival footage of her on youtube somewhere where she is making allegations about satanic ritual abuse, I'll post it later if I can find it

Wow. Lots to take in. Is the Tavistock centre closed now? Anything to do with this?

Apologies

forgot to add one of the other Tavistock subsidiaries of extreme concern iin the GIDS clinic that treats children for "gender dysphoria".

It is of extreme concern to me that many anti-British cults and actors claim that the Tavistock is a centre of mind control, paedophilia and satanism.

In fact the GIDS clinic can be reasonably claimed to be involved in experimental, unethical drugs treatment of children that can be categoriesed as child abuse.

The Clinic for Dissociative Studies (an NHS Independent Provider founded by the Tavistock and Portman NHS Trust) is definitely involved in the abuse of vulnerable patients who end up believing that their parents were satanists, as happened to Carol Felstead before her mysterious and unexplained death.

If this was the plot for a fictional book or film it would be dismissed as far fetched and incredulous, however it is true.

The EDL had paedophiles in their ranks and Robinson was perfectly happy to shelter them. I think one reason why the far right obsess over paedophiles is projection. Someone compiled a list of far right paedophiles and it was very long. They're pretty dysfunctional people.

I didn't know about that but am unsurprised to hear it

@hoodathunkit

Wow. Lots to take in. Is the Tavistock centre closed now? Anything to do with this?

There are several subsidiary organisations linked to what is now the Tavistock and Portman NHS Trust that are of concern to me.

Having said that there are I think good, decent people working at the Tavi. It is a curate's egg, like so many things. Nuanced.

Possibly the most concerning organisation is the Clinic for Dissociative Studies, founded by Sinason and one of the main organisations promoting the satanic panic in the UK today.

The clinic treats people diagnosed with dissociative disorders including dissociative identity disorder (DID) formerly multiple personality disorder (MPD).

The complete lack of professional boundaries demonstrated by people working at the clinic can be seen very clearly in the documentary Becoming Pamela which can be seen on youtube

In the documentary an extremely vulnerable adult, Pamela Edwards, is exhibited by her various carers for the education of the viewers.

Pamela's "foster mother" in the documentary Judy Williams was also working with the clinic at the time, thus demonstrating the clinic's flexible approach to dual roles and professional boundaries (or lack thereof)

the "Valerie" character referred to but never seen is Sinason

Judy Williams is a very interesting character indeed

Jesus christ. Thanks so much for sharing. My heart breaks sometimes

Tommy Robinson is a woman-beating piece of crap so I'm not surprised plenty of his followers are misogynists too. I'm sick of him taking the credit for work done by survivors. I mean, the prick encouraged his followers to jam a domestic violence hotline because it offered support to Muslim women.

I did not know this. Horrendous. Absolutely fucking horrendous

I used to work in an office overlooking Trafalgar Square. There were soooo many protests going on every week I don't actually think the media could cover them all. I saw one particularly scary looking one once with people flying black flags and declaring something in another language over megaphones, hanging out of cars, hundreds and hundreds of people marching blocking the entire circuit of Trafalgar sq but you'd never even know it happened if you didn't see it.

So after seeing these many protests I do understand why it's unlikely they'll all make the news. Not sure obviously if there are less during Covid because I don't work there anymore.

Don't forget about the red shoes made from children's skin that all the celebs are wearing!

I happened to be passing one of these protests at the time and heard what a few of the "Save the Children" protesters were saying through the megaphone- one speaker told her lifestory about how she was a drug addict in an abusive relationship and had her children removed from her care at short notice, which she seemed to think was outrageous. Another was ranting about how the Covid Contract means police will enter schools and seize children with symptoms and take them to some facility to be forcibly vaccinated whilst not disclosing their whereabouts to parents.
It was quite ridiculous and laughable although I'm sure those aren't the main messages Save the Children promote it seemed to have been hijacked by those with outrageous conspiracies linked to children.

@Indigo89

I happened to be passing one of these protests at the time and heard what a few of the "Save the Children" protesters were saying through the megaphone- one speaker told her lifestory about how she was a drug addict in an abusive relationship and had her children removed from her care at short notice, which she seemed to think was outrageous. Another was ranting about how the Covid Contract means police will enter schools and seize children with symptoms and take them to some facility to be forcibly vaccinated whilst not disclosing their whereabouts to parents. It was quite ridiculous and laughable although I'm sure those aren't the main messages Save the Children promote it seemed to have been hijacked by those with outrageous conspiracies linked to children.

Don’t confuse Save The Children - genuine charity, with Save Our* Children - bunch of conspiracy theory nut jobs.

I think the ‘the’ and ‘our’ show a big distinction. ‘The’ means all children, ‘our’ means my children or children that I know.

*although someone at Save a The Children did get convicted of child abuse.

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/society/2018/apr/26/scandal-hit-save-the-children-cut-off-from-uk-government-funding

These protesters are using both hashtags though.

Thanks for the links hoodathunkit. Someone mentioned that there are those that believe the counter conspiracy where followers believe that there is a cult of therapists who coax victims into false memories. Your posts seem to really buy into that.

Jesus christ. Thanks so much for sharing. My heart breaks sometimes

Researching these networks really is absolutely heartbreaking.

You find, very quickly, exploited vulnerable adults, psychopathic / criminal psychotherapists, psychologists, psychiatrists and others in positionos of extreme authority over the most vulnerable people in society.

You also find plenty of paedophiles hiding in plain sight and pointing at innocent people and screaming "Paedos!!"

You may be interested in Judy Williams's website, her about me page states (emphasis mine)

"JUDY WILLIAMS

Committed to your well-being

I am a psychoanalytically trained psychotherapist and an Occupational Therapist based in Manchester, working with adults, couples, students, children and adolescents. I have over 34 years experience of working in the field of mental health within and alongside the NHS.

I also offer consultations to organisations providing health and social care, and I am an experienced clinical supervisor.

Within Mind

I am a UK Council for Psychotherapy [UKCP] registered Attachment based Psychoanalytic Psychotherapist working with adults and couples. I am a member of The Bowlby Centre.

I am also a Child & Adolescent Psychotherapist, registered with the Association of Child Psychotherapists [ACP] and a Health and Care Professions Council [HCPC] registered Occupational Therapist.

I am an experienced Maternal Mental Health psychotherapist and I am a member of The Association for Infant Mental Health UK [AIMH (UK)].

Although I mainly work from a psychodynamic perspective, I have an adaptive approach to my work as a psychotherapist depending on the needs of the client.

I have extensive experience of working with individuals, couples and families who come with concerns which are causing them anxiety. Please go to Why Psychotherapy? to read more about the areas of concern and problems I can offer help with.

I am also a member of the European Society for Trauma and Dissociation [ESTD] and the International Society for the Study of Trauma and Dissociation [ISSTD]. I have presented at the annual conferences for both the ESTD (2012) and the ISSTD (2012), and I have been a visiting speaker on the The Bowlby Centre and The Clinic for Dissociative Studies course: Advanced Working with Dissociation in Clinical Practice from an Attachment Perspective

I am a Consultant Specialist Psychotherapist with the Clinic for Dissociative Studies, UK. For more than 17 years I have worked closely with the Clinic for Dissociative Studies to develop and to provide packages of psychotherapeutic care and treatment for adults, children and young people with dissociative disorders, including Dissociative Identity Disorder, trauma associated complex needs and intellectual (learning) disability.

I am an Associate Psychotherapist with The Pottergate Centre for Dissociation and Trauma. "

source:

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The Bowlby Centre, a once respected insitution that promoted attachment theory (I theory I have no problem with whatsoever) has become a hotbed for satan hunting and has been exposed by Private Eye magazine and SAFF for this very reason.

The Bowlby Centre has run various events teaching police officers, social workers and mental health professionals all about satanic ritual abuse and the associated dissociative disorders.

This association with attachment theory and conspiracy theories about SRA has done a lot to discredit attachment theory to rational, skeptical persons, which is a shame IMO. Personally I would not go near any training in attachement theory, not because of the theory itself but because of how it has been used as a Trojan horse.

When a lecturer starts a lecture about SRA / DID etc. and introduces it by exploring attachment theory and the tender relationship between mother and infant in induces a collective positive transference towards the lecturer. It can even induce a trance state, a mld form of hypnosis. It is the sugar coating the pill of batshit conspiracy theories.

European Society for Trauma and Dissociation [ESTD] and the International Society for the Study of Trauma and Dissociation [ISSTD] are fascinating organisations that promote SRA conspiracy theories and the resulting diagnoses of DID and other dissocative disorders.

Wlliams says that she worked with the Clinic for Dissociative Studies for 17 years and was thus working with the clinic when she became foster mother for Pamela Edwards, one of the patients of the clinic, a very serious abuse of professional boundaries that resonated with Dr Fleur Fisher's fake "adoption" of vulnerable patient Carol Felstead before Carol's unexplained and mysterious death.

The Pottergate Centre for Dissociation and Trauma is another SRA batshit conspiracy promoting organisation that abuses vulnerable patients.

As someone who trained in psychotherapy and who has endured repeated sexual trauma and supported many vulnerable people who have experienced sexual trauma I cannot help but notice that the vulnerable patients who are "helped" by these oganisations seldom get better.

The only ones who seem to get better actually join the organisations as professionals.

If I am supporting a vulnerable person who has suffered trauma I never diminish the trauma or suggest that they "look on the bright side".

I always, always invite them to remember their inner strengths and resilience.

These therapists of concern to me alternate between recommending positive thinking (look on the bright side) and never miss an opportunity to tell survivors how vulnerable and easily triggered they are.