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This government don’t give a shit about schools or your kids

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noblegiraffe · 20/08/2020 19:11

AIBU to think that the government have fucked up literally everything to do with schools and education this year?

Evidence:

Chaotic school closures and keyworker provision (couldn’t decide what a keyworker was until the very last minute)

Forgot that kids on free school meals would go hungry so heads had to go round delivering sandwiches while the DfE put together an utterly shambolic voucher system that crashed and was pretty unusable.

Issued no guidelines for minimum education requirements during lockdown leading to vastly different provision between schools. Even Ofsted said they couldn’t judge schools on lockdown provision as there were no standards to judge them against.

Had to be shamed into u-turning on their insistence that free school meal children should go hungry during the holidays by a celebrity footballer (well done Marcus Rashford you absolute star)

Fed stories to friendly newspapers about schools re-opening in May to judge public reaction, leading to anxiety and uncertainty among parents and school staff

Announced that primary schools would open to all pupils before the summer holidays, an announcement that had surely not been run past anyone who worked in schools given that under the government’s own guidelines for schools for bubbles of 15 and no rotas, this would require double the classrooms and double the teachers available. Then backtracked on this a few weeks later (getting the friendly press to blame the unions) again creating uncertainty, anxiety and disappointment for parents and pupils.

Ignored education select committee questions about Ofqual’s algorithm when they raised issues in July

Lied and said they didn’t have early access to the data from Ofqual’s algorithm

When Scotland u-turned on their use of an algorithm, instead of making a considered response, came out with the bizarre notion that kids could use their mock grades - a suggestion that had obviously never been put past anyone who worked in schools. Again.

Took 5 days to realise that their mock suggestion created more problems than it solved, then u-turned on awarding CAGs creating problems for Y12 next year.

Fed stories to the friendly press that the unions are blocking the re-opening of schools in September so if it goes tits-up, they can blame them again (unions are asking for a ‘plan B’ in the case of local lockdowns, and for working conditions comparable to those of all other workers, no strike action has been proposed or balloted for so they couldn’t block re-opening even if they wanted to)

Blamed Ofqual for the algorithm they were told to create (prioritising statistics over teacher assessment)

Branded a teacher payrise that was agreed back in January a ‘reward for work during lockdown’, knowing this was incorrect, and deliberately fuelling outrage that they themselves had caused by having no minimum requirements for education in lockdown leading to vastly different provision.

Not funding this payrise so teachers probably won’t get it as otherwise it will lead to redundancies for other staff members due to having to fund it from already dire staffing budgets.

Issued guidelines that said that schools should reopen with increased cleaning schedules, increased handwashing, hand sanitising but providing no extra funding for this.

Instructed heads not to take any measures that would improve safety but would require more space (e.g. use of village halls) or not have pupils in full time (rotas, staggered timetables).

Didn’t realise that kids wouldn’t be able to get to school on public transport under current social distancing requirements as there aren’t enough buses until three weeks before schools reopened, and decided to throw £40 million to LAs to sort this (what? buy more buses?) so that they could blame the LAs when it inevitably goes wrong and kids can’t get to school.

And these are the people currently running a campaign to convince parents that they are capable of re-opening schools safely.

YABU: I have full confidence in the government and am perfectly happy with how things have gone so far

YANBU: It is mind-boggling how incompetent they have been, and how little thought they have given to the education of the nation’s children.

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MulierLite · 20/08/2020 22:52

YANBU - agree with every word.

Callingallskeletons · 20/08/2020 22:52

Completely agree

thecatsatonthewall · 20/08/2020 22:53

@ILoveAllRainbowsx

Do you know when the next election is? a bit too late to have any effect on the current crisis, even if i was elected in 2024.

Without the backing of a mainstream party, your chances of becoming an MP is nil, so not everyone can become a MP and of course there is only 650 of them and 66m of us.......

Its just a cop out to say "why don't YOU become an MP" an MP has effectively said I will rule you, i am better than you, so follow me!
it is therefore perfectly acceptable, when they fuck up, to hold them to account, after all they promise so much at election time, if they don't deliver........

Bluewavescrashing · 20/08/2020 22:55

The journalists on the daily briefings were shocking. Either none of them had children in school, or none of them engaged with the school or were involved in their child's education in any way (hate to point the finger at the men, but...)

No decent, searching questions were asked. Nobody said, have you got a plan for the long term? How can we fund spaces and staff, or help schools pay for cleaning equipment and supplies? Who asked the MPs whether they had consulted with teachers and heads about the guidance, if not why not, and can you reassure us that you will do this with immediate effect as o the guidance is actually relevant?

Hmmm. Maybe I could do a better job than the journalists, actually. Career change? 😉

Bluewavescrashing · 20/08/2020 22:56

SO the guidance is relevant.

Fat fingers.

SmileEachDay · 20/08/2020 22:56

Oh come on Bluewavescrashing, Laura K did a GREAT job at asking Boris all the difficult questions.

🙄

AuntyPasta · 20/08/2020 22:58

The Conservatives need to get their shit together because their voters do care about further education and by now their niece, next door neighbour’s grandson or their friend’s goddaughter have lost out on their university places because of the A level algorithm cock up.

Iamnotthe1 · 20/08/2020 22:59

@Bluewavescrashing

The journalists on the daily briefings were shocking. Either none of them had children in school, or none of them engaged with the school or were involved in their child's education in any way (hate to point the finger at the men, but...)

No decent, searching questions were asked. Nobody said, have you got a plan for the long term? How can we fund spaces and staff, or help schools pay for cleaning equipment and supplies? Who asked the MPs whether they had consulted with teachers and heads about the guidance, if not why not, and can you reassure us that you will do this with immediate effect as o the guidance is actually relevant?

Hmmm. Maybe I could do a better job than the journalists, actually. Career change? 😉

In fairness, they were only allowed to ask the pre-approved questions and, if they tried to go against that, blocked from further briefings.

You know... the sort of behaviour we'd expect to only see in a particular kind of Government...

Bluewavescrashing · 20/08/2020 22:59

Yeah, Boris wuvs Laura K.

Bluewavescrashing · 20/08/2020 23:01

Yes, I have to admit the penny has just dropped that the questions must have been pre approved. It just gets more corrupt the more you think about it.

netflixismysidehustle · 20/08/2020 23:03

@Bluewavescrashing

The journalists on the daily briefings were shocking. Either none of them had children in school, or none of them engaged with the school or were involved in their child's education in any way (hate to point the finger at the men, but...)

No decent, searching questions were asked. Nobody said, have you got a plan for the long term? How can we fund spaces and staff, or help schools pay for cleaning equipment and supplies? Who asked the MPs whether they had consulted with teachers and heads about the guidance, if not why not, and can you reassure us that you will do this with immediate effect as o the guidance is actually relevant?

Hmmm. Maybe I could do a better job than the journalists, actually. Career change? 😉

There were some easy questions that should have been asked
  • where are the laptops?
  • are schools supposed to fund cleaning out of their normal budget?
  • have you contacted schools with details of the tutoring funds?
  • when can after school and breakfast clubs reopen?
  • where's the guidance for schools during local lockdowns? What can parents expect during this weeks?

Shocking there's been no press conference about the 2020 exams and a return to school one.

HesterShaw1 · 20/08/2020 23:04

I'd like to hear from someone who votes Conservative why they do so, given the utter contempt the Tory party has shown public services every time they've been in power since 1979.

Without mentioning Brexit or Corbyn please. What do you think is good about a Conservative government?

SmileEachDay · 20/08/2020 23:06

Shocking there's been no press conference about the 2020 exams and a return to school one

The PM can’t even come back from his holiday, let alone have a press conference.

Iamnotthe1 · 20/08/2020 23:06

@Bluewavescrashing

Yes, I have to admit the penny has just dropped that the questions must have been pre approved. It just gets more corrupt the more you think about it.
It does. Any Government should welcome scrutiny. It's an opportunity to get a fresh perspective on something which, up until that point, has likely only been discussed in an echo chamber.

When a child in my class finishes a piece of writing, they will peer review it with two or three other members of the class (not friends) before they submit a finished draft. That gives them the opportunity to be challenged on their decisions, work out the issues, make improvements, etc. before it's ever 'finalised'. If ten and eleven year olds can work out how to do this successfully, why can't the Government?

Bluewavescrashing · 20/08/2020 23:06

And also--if covid doesn't get transmitted on the workplace, how have so many MPs tested positive? Looking at you, Matt Hancock, King of social distancing.

monkeytennis97 · 20/08/2020 23:09

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Message withdrawn - posted on wrong thread.

Lemons1571 · 20/08/2020 23:10

I’d like to know what the plans are for our primary children’s education during potential local lockdowns. Obviously parents both working full time cannot spend hours every day supporting weeks of remote learning, as they are doing their own jobs. Their employer pays them to work. Their employer does not pay them to cram in a few distracted work zoom calls, in between focussing on practice SATS papers. One person cannot do two jobs at once. Parents are not magicians. So come on Gavin, what’s your plan?

monkeytennis97 · 20/08/2020 23:11

Oops sorry last post was on wrong thread. Have asked for it to be deleted.

Bluewavescrashing · 20/08/2020 23:15

He hasn't got a plan, he'll bluff his way through and deflect all responsibility onto schools. Last minute home learning planning will be done by teachers with no time to do it properly. Provision won't be as high quality as it could have been if a long term plan had been made. Unfortunately decisions by the government are so last-minute that forward planning by teachers is difficult. Teachers in my school have all been in their classrooms for at least a week during the holidays, unpaid, planning for a normal return with a full class. If this is abandoned all the work that goes into resourcing a curriculum, setting up displays, organising interventions etc will be wasted which is so frustrating.

KenDodd · 20/08/2020 23:15

I quite agree the Conservatives are successful at winning elections and retaining power.

It's just astonishing isn't it. I've lost all respect for Tory voters and what they've enabled.

Bluewavescrashing · 20/08/2020 23:23

That's great @Clavinova but for many weeks there was real uncertainty over wraparound care and holiday clubs and the journalists should have been (allowed to be) questioning the MPs about this. Eg in June people needed to organise holiday childcare but the guidance just wasn't there. Providers didn't know if they could open or not. Things like this have caused massive stress for working parents.

netflixismysidehustle · 20/08/2020 23:32

I have read on here that many schools aren't providing wraparound care which is surely critical in getting parents back to work. I wonder how many places took the decision not to open due to lack of guidance and whether they will be viable if parents switch to childminders or family instead? There is only 2 weeks until school opens ffs

Bluewavescrashing · 20/08/2020 23:35

Ironically I'm now depending on the school breakfast club to get in to school and prepare for the day. Previously to covid I brought my DCs into the classroom with me. Now I'm not allowed to as they aren't supposed to be in my bubble (irrelevant really as I cover classes throughout the school). So if breakfast club is closed I can't go to work to teach the kids of other people who can't go to work 🤣

RhubarbTea · 20/08/2020 23:42

I completely agree OP. It's been utterly shambolic.