Garden party??

[Louisa111]

Just wondered how many can you have in your garden for a party ?? Is it 6 people?
I've been invited to a family members house for their 50th Anniversary which they will be holding in the garden but have since found out quite a few people will be going from various different households . I've flatly refused, I have 3 young children but this is now causing them to be upset with me .. AIBU?? I don't think I am, this virus hasn't gone away? They seem to think it's illegal if they go over 30?

I’d go but everyone’s risk acceptance level is different :)

We’ve had plenty of BBQs/gatherings in our garden this summer so I really wouldn’t be bothered.
However it’s totally up to you to decide what you feel comfortable with

I was wondering the same. I know we can do what we want really as we're not exactly going to get arrested but I've just lost track of what the actual guidance is and would prefer to follow it. If we went to a beer garden does anyone know if it's still 2 households or if it's more because it's outside I've looked but am not that bright so could do with it simplifying

I went to a garden drinks thing with 14 people the other day, I'm not overly worried now but each to their own.

I've lost track & from what I can gather you can sit inside a pub with strangers from other households. You could also go to an outdoor wedding/party in a pub garden with up to 30 people. Outside seems to be quite safe so for example park/beach/cycling doesn't seem to be spreading the virus much. It seems to be inside events which are the problem. I would go but it's up to you.

It’s still 6 people outside if they are from different households, or two households. Those households can change each time. Definitely not 30.

I’ve been invited or rather summoned to one. I’m trying so hard to hold strong on my No! It’s 6 people or two households.

The whole 30 thing for weddings etc has muddied the waters.

If it’s outside I wouldn’t worry. I think it’s up to 30 people

Here you go.

It is 6 outside from multiple households of up to 30 from two households. Two households allowed inside.

Both outside and inside require social distancing of 2m or 1m+.

I had it saved from earlier for my evidence.

Or up to 30*

No more than 6 if multiple households. If it's just 2 households you can go up to 30.

The guidance is entirely unclear, but it is written down: www.gov.uk/guidance/meeting-people-from-outside-your-household-from-4-july

Only up to 6 people from different households, or more people if from only 1 or 2 households. Unless it's a "gathering" in which case, up to 30 - so if you call it a "support group" then 30 people is ok, but if you call it a "family party" then it isn't.

Clear as mud

Guidance isn’t clear but I know someone, who was working on a Covid Ward went to a baby shower indoors with no social distancing and then this week is off out for drinks with a bunch of people she has tagged on FB (50+).

Do they have a large garden? Enough for you to socially distance. I’m cautious so it would make me nervous.

The guidance changes so often, and is so illogical, something like this has become a thing you have to risk assess personally.

For me, if it is outside in a sizable garden with people who aren't likely to be legless or aren't likely to be huggers or people that invade your space, I wouldn't be worried. I can't see that it is different from being in the park sitting in the sunshine which people have been doing for months.
But, you are equally within your rights to say "I'm not really comfortable with breaking the guidance like that, so I hope you have a nice time, but we won't be able to join you at this one".

@Lucindainthesky

No more than 6 if multiple households. If it's just 2 households you can go up to 30.

Not many people will have 15 people in their household, though. Unless you live in a mansion.

I would go, and have been to garden gatherings with more than 6 people.

You have to make you own decision, don't worry about everyone else

Guidelines are no more than 6. Over 30 is illegal.

Larger gatherings (over 6) are meant to be in licenced premises that will enforce social distancing basically. The rules for events up to 30 are separate tables per household, 1m + distancing, table service no mingling. If you can pull that off at a family party then there's not a problem but I doubt that was the plan

@Lazypuppy

I would go, and have been to garden gatherings with more than 6 people.

You have to make you own decision, don't worry about everyone else

This “don’t worry about everyone else” is the problem which is causing covid to spread to Extremely vulnerable people who have no choice but to go to work and places of education.

If it's just 2 households you can go up to 30.

I'm trying to decide if a lot of people are still living in stately homes, or if there is a lot of overcrowding in normal size homes

Big houses with staff 😏

I've been invited to a friend's barbecue next month, there are upwards of 30 people (all separate households) invited. I won't be going. I've seen firsthand how COVID-19 has affected people and their families. I will wait until the virus is well and truly defeated, how ever long that takes, before socialising in big groups outside of my family.

That makes no sense, two households of up to thirty people. How many households have fifteen people in?